Leon, Very interesting! Clearly this data was compiled by someone who has never seen any of the 9mm Cartridges illustrated. The “Commercial” load on page 12-3 has a date that has never existed as far as I know. The only similar headstamp was a Vietnam war buy of 9mmP with a similar headstamp but dated “68”.
As you point out the M882 is shown claimed to have a 112gr bullet-Don’t think I have ever seen such a load. The drawing illustrates a fully enclosed bullet jacket with the base closed off. I have not heard that in a M885 bullet, particularly in 1994 (the date when this 9mmP information was published).
Also interesting is the M905 proof cartridge. The overall weight shown would indicate it is also has a 112gr-115gr bullet.
What is interesting is that these cartridges were type classified in April 1985. Back then and even today, most NATO 9x19mm used 115gr bullets. STANAG 4090 (which I can’t find a copy of online-can anyone help???) doesn’t require a particular bullet weight, but 115gr was pretty standard. Perhaps when these two cartridges were type classified, they thought they would be ~115gr??? I know almost nothing about the early development of the M882. Perhaps someone out there can help.
I did find the following info on STANAG 4090. It was ratified in 1962 and in 2007 it included:
[quote]STANAG 4090 – Small Arms Ammunition (9mm Parabellum)
– 5 Active Designs
– 13 Passive Designs
– 4 Obsolete Designs[/quote]
Just for fun, here is the notice to potential bidders for the 2006-2010 contract.
[quote]ITEM: 9mm Ball, DODIC A363, NSN 1305-01-172-9558
Document Type: SRCSGT
Posted Date: May 03, 2005
Category: Ammunition and Explosives
Set Aside: N/A
Contracting Office Address
U.S. Army Field Support Command, ATTN: AMSFS-CCA, Rock Island, IL 61299-6500
MARKET SURVEY AND REQUEST FOR INFORMATION: Information is being collected for market survey purposes and not as a request for proposal or as an obligation on part of the Government (USG). The USG does not intend to award a contract on the basis of t his survey and will not pay for information solicited. Please identify proprietary information. All submitted information will be retained in the Contract Office as market research but will not be released to the public. ITEM: 9mm Ball, DODIC A363, NSN 1305-01-172-9558. This round has a 124 grain Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) projectile used for anti-personnel and training. The cartridges are packed in 50 round cardboard cartons, M2A1 ammunition boxes, then wire bound boxes. While there are no firm require ments at this time, the requirement could be for approximately 239,000,000 rounds over five years. The USG has no intention of waiving any technical data package requirements and does not intend to provide any GFM (Government Furnished Materials). The Arm y Field Support Command is seeking sources capable of meeting subject requirements. Interested sources should submit concept papers outlining its capabilities to meet the Armys potential requirements. Concept papers should identify business structure, s ize and status, production capabilities (equipment, technical, production rate capabilities identifying minimum and maximums, quality system utilized, etc.) and past experience with same or similar items. NLT COB 16 May 2005, interested sources should E-M ail concept papers to Bruce.Kellums@us.army.mil, or mailed to SFSJM-LGI, Attention of Bruce Kellums, 1 Rock Island Arsenal, Building 350, 5th Floor, Pillar E12, Rock Island, IL 61299-6000. Direct all questions to Bruce Kellums (309) 782-0089, FAX (309) 78 2-2083. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS SURVEY.
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U.S. Army Field Support Command ATTN: AMSFS-CCA-F Rock Island IL