Looking for 30-30 Remington, Not 30-30 Winchester


Yes, I said 30-30 Remington, not 30-30 Winchester. Before Remington came out with the 30 Remington Caliber Label for the Model 8 Auto-Loading Rifle in 1906, they labeled the Model 8 caliber as 30-30 Remington, and the first ammunition was headstamped 30-30 Remington. They change the name to 30 Remington as there was a lot of confusion, and a lot of people believed they could use the 30-30 Winchester in the Model 8. The 30-30 Remington was the same as the re-named cartridge 30 Remington, both were rimless, not rimmed like the 30-30 Winchester.
Dave Call,