Marine issue Pacific Theatre 1911 2 mag pouch


#1

That’s what the seller told me. May someone verify this?


#2

One can’t always tell from a picture, but my personal opinion based on
having a few of them and experiencing them in the Army is that this is
not for the .45 M1911 Magazines, but rather a pouch for two 15-shot
M1 Carbine magazines. USMC gear is often marked as such, but there is
no particular reason why this could not have been used by a Marine.

There are two major types of this pouch. One type has two separate belt
loops on the back. The type shown has a single loop. The snap is for
securing the pouch on the standard web Pistol Belt (as opposed to the ten
pocket belts for the M1903 series and the M1 Garand rifle). These single
pouches were popular because they also could be slipped over the butt
stock of the carbine, giving the soldier two extra clips, and also allowing him
to carry only the carbine, with this pouch and one in the weapon giving him
45 rounds at hand, while doing mundane chores in a relatively secured area,
but nevertheless in a combat zone.

They were even used in Korea with M2 Carbines, even though the standard
magazine for the M2 was 30 rounds. With this pounch, that meant you had 60
rounds of ammo attached to the weapon, if you had to grab it in a hurry without
your full web gear, as well as simply giving you that much more ammo at hand
in a fight.

John Moss


#3

The U.S. Army had separate two pocket magazine pouches for wear on the pistol belt, one to hold two M1911 magazines, and the other to hold two 15 round magazine for the M1 Carbine.
The U.S. Marine Corps cam up with the pouch in the photos which can be used with either the M1911 or M1 Carbine magazines (or 1 of each if the user wanted to do that).
The two small areas of stitching near the bottom of the pocket keep the carbine magazines from falling in too deep, and help keep the M1911 magazines more or less centered in the pocket.
Most Marines served in the Pacific theater, but these were issued all across the USMC, I believe. Alec Tulkoff’s “Grunt Gear” has loads of detail in these, contract numbers, quantities, etc.


#4

The seller had 2 1911 mags stuffed into it. I put a M1 carbine on top to see if it fits.


#5

O.K. I did not realize the Marines had a separate pouch. With
the Carbine pouch of the same design already established at least as
early as 1942 (I have one on the butt of my carbine made at Jefferson
Quarter Master Depot in 1942), which I think was the first year of any
wide distribution of the M1 Carbine, it is amazing that they would complicate
supply channels with a totally unneeded variant pouch. Both the standard
.45 pouch and both types of carbine pouch were in wide issue, the pouch for
.45 mags since WWI and the Carbine pouch at least from 1942.

I can see now, even with what appears to be a 10-shot civilian magazine
in Vlad’s excellent picture, that the pouch he shows IS longer from top to
bottom of the pouch, than the same design made for the carbine.

Interesting. I don’t recall ever seeing one, but then I don’t collect that stuff.
Most certainly, I never saw one in the Army, but then my service post-dated
WWII by 11 years. We had M2 Carbines, with the pouch for four 30-shot
magazines. The 15-shot magazines and pouches were being used then, I
believe, only in what then was considered CONUS (Continental United States)
where the general Carbine issue was the M1, the M2 being issued in overseas
commands. Here I can speak only of the Army, not other services.

Vlad - nice find, for sure!

John M.