Massiv hstp on shotshell


#1

This is an all brass case shotshell.
The hstp is H Massiv H 12
It has been given to me as an Norvegian shotshell.
Or perhaps Dannish with H for Hagen ?
Could you confirm and five the name of the manufacturer ?
Thanks
JP
Massiv


#2

Hi jeanpierre.
Youre right that these are supposed to be Norwegian,from L.H.Hagen&Co.
I am not sure how that has been ascertained,but i guess it has something to do with this catalouge from Hagen in the 1890s. The underlined says THICK MASSIVE (solid?)BRASS,big primer.


Best Finn


#3

thanks
Hagen is Norvegian or is it Danish (located in Christiana) ?
JP


#4

Cristiania was the name of the Norwegian capitol upto 1925,when it changed name to Oslo.
There is also a place in Copenhagen,Denmark called Christiania(from 1971),but that has absolutely nothing to do with Mr Hagen or any shotgunshells as far as i know…(O:
It must also be said that Hagen didnt make these shells himself,most likely they were bought from England…


Other examples can be seen here: http://kvf.no/ammo-hagle-hagen.php?filter=cart
F


#5
  1. Thank you very much for the geographical explanation.
  2. The shell you show is from Belgian origin
  3. Thanks for the interesting link
    jp

#6

How do we know this is from Belgium? Are there Belgian shells with the same funnylooking letters?
I would love to see a picture…
Next to bottom in the link above,there is a S.A.B shell with Hagen OSC,is it the same shell you have?
Thanks Finn


#7

Because Diane is a trademark of S.A. Anderlecht, Belgium (and later from Cartoucherie Stephanoise)
I will check tomorrow to send you pictures of my SAB shell and of some Diane shells
jp


#8

here are some hstps from Anderlecht
top row : paper tube cases
bottom row : all brass cases
jp


#9

The catalog posted above translates to the following:

"Empty shotshells for center- or pinfire
Brown cardboard shells with big or small primers
Blue —
Green —
Red — outside clad with brass
Thin brass - big primer
Thick solid (one-piece) brass , big primer

Our centerfire shells are made in such a way, that the regular flat brass primers for rifle cartridges can be used, these are very advantageous and better/easier to reload, than the ones using small primers and loose anvils.
We do however still carry a line of shells with small primers."

Ole


#10

Thanks for the pictures,JP,very interesting,and no doubt that these are from the same factory!
And thanks to Ole for the translation! (O:


#11

thanks for the translation
jp