Mauser clip?


#1

Hello, i just got a stripper clip which looks like the one for the 7.92x57 Mauser but it is a little bit longer and it has only 2 grooves(?) on the side instead of 3. Its for Mausers of something else? Thanks for the ansver
Balázs


(sry for bad images)


#2

The left one, spring is missing, was made by Polte Magdeburg.
The right one… good quistion. :-)


#3

Yeah, i know the left one, I was curious about the right one :)


#4

I believe your charging clip is for caliber 7 x 57 mm
Mauser rounds. It appears identical to a clip of DWM
1913 7 x 57 mm rounds I keep as a sample along with
my Brazilian-contract, German-made 7 x 57 mm Mauser
rifle. My clip has the two lugs on the side (some clips for
the 7.9 x 57 mm rounds have only two as well, although
three lugs seems standard on German-manufacture specimens
for the 7.9.) My clip is marked on the back “D.M.” enclosed in
an oval.

The 7 x 57 mm Mauser cartridge has a slightly larger head than
the 7.9 x 57, so when the difference is magnified 10 times (one on
each side of the cartridge and five cartridges), it requires a longer
clip. The proportionate length of mine to one of my 7.9 clips is the
same as seen in your picture.

Edited only to remove a couple of typo errors…

John Moss


#5

While putting my clip of DWM 7 x 57 mm rounds
back with my rifle, I looked at a couple of other clips
with Mausers, and found that the clip in question in
this thread could also be for the 6.5 x 55 mm Swedish
Mausers, although the Swedish-packaged clips seem
to all be marked. I say “packaged” because I have a full,
original box of strippers for the Swedish rifles that I opened,
and it has mixed markings on the clips. I really don’t know
how one would tell the 7 x 57 mm clips from the 6.5 x 55 mm
ones, if in fact, there is even any real way to tell them apart
except perhaps if they contain original ammo boxed on those
clips, as in the case of my DWM 1913 7 x 57 mm rounds on the
clip.

John Moss


#6

This is almost certainly made to fit 7x57 cartridges, the extra length and the presence of only two lugs are the starting point for the premise. A lot of these clips are unmarked and I suspect that most of these were FN production, a company that only very rarely marked its cartridge clips.

John is right in saying that the 7x57 and 6,5x55 are similar, but almost all the Swedish clips were arsenal made locally and were marked to identify them;

The only way to recognise a 6,5x55 clip, other than the markings, is that the Swedish cartridge has a slightly thicker rim than the 7x57 so whilst a 7mm cartridge will fit loosely into a 6,5mm clip, to do the opposite will be a struggle and you’d not want to strip the cartridges into your rifle in a hurry.

So if you’ve got what look like unmarked, DWM, DM or KC marked examples of these longer clips it might be worth seeing which cartridge fits best, these non-Swedish 6,5x55 ones are hard to find.

Peter


#7

Peter - thank you for the clarification and correction.
I just finished doing a little function test with about
four-each of clips I thought to be 7 x 57 mm and those
I thought might be 6.5 x 55, and your comments proved
out perfectly. The two are very similar, but the fit of the
cartridges in each instance is definitive.

The ones that I tested that proved to be 7 x 57 were: plain
(no markings), D.M. In an oval, and P.S. stamped at one end
of the clip. I think the latter is Spanish, from Pirotecnico Sevilla.

Thanks again. You are truly the master of the chargers!

John Moss


#8

Thank you for your help, unfortunately I dont have casings to fill it up, maybe in the future I will try to get some. :)


#9

The reason the 7.9 m/m clip (DWM 4C) is smaller than the 7 m/m clip (DWM 2A) is not primarily because of dimensional differences in these two cartridges, which vary only about .004 in. in nominal base size. Rather the size of the 7.9 m/m clip was based on a desire to make the clip as compact as possible, which in turn made all packaging of the clipped ammunition denser. This is no big thing in many contexts, but to the German army an ammunition train carrying ten million rounds was something worth making as wieldy as possible. Jack