Military Ordnance and Ammunition Collection Photos III

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Jeff is this some sort of frag shell? I am guessing that the steel cable is wrapped around a thin section of the main body, so as to fragment on detonation.

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Anti-balloon. The cable uncoils but remains attached to the projectile. The had a few of these and one that had forward facing blades that opened in flight. I took a couple of closer photos, I’ll dig them out later.

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You can also see a different cable round above this one in the main picture, the other two I mentioned can be spotted in photo #84.

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Thanks Jeff - I missed the others. Interesting what catches the eye in some pictures but not in others!

I was there for 5 days and many of the rounds I never saw until later when reviewing the pictures - then you wish you could go back and start all over again.

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Maybe a silly question but,did you ask curators if they had a library of pictires of all those things? If they have them numbered for some reference, there may be a cache of photos. And maybe some way to get them all on a memory stick? Like what’s being done at Woodin Lab.

Now that is cool. That same projectile caught my eye also. And those blades are viscous looking.
Jeff great pictures thank you.
Zac

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Ok. I collect special purpose. And not large caliber. So next to a Rankin Dart I need a cable gizmo ballon projo on my bucket list

Awesome photos

We need to “download” your endless experiences stored in your brain 🤔

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The impression that I got during the visit was that this museum, like most military museums, suffered from a lack of funding. Budgets are tight everywhere, and museums normally get the tail end of everything as well as being the first cut in a budget crisis.
There were no photo records available at that time, and their written inventory that they operated off from was drafted in the 1960s. I think I showed a picture of the cover at the beginning of this series of pictures. There may have been an updated version, but I doubt it. The curator guarded the inventory book like it was the Magna Carta, for him maybe it was.
Note that this was close to 15 years ago, anything could have happened to improve inventory procedures in the meantime.
But I doubt it.

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If code 46/292 it`s:
11" (280mm) AP bomb to guns mod.1867.
Length: 2,5 caliber; have 2 cupper driver bands - main and self-centering. Screwed bottom (?), base point fuze mod.1896.
Loaded weight: 223 kg
Charge weight: 2,5kg

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41/2
Stone cannonball, lifted from Chudskoe lake in 1902.
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Amazing! Thank you! I await foto from this museuy reserve many years!
May be you have more detalaized or quality foto AP rounds 50-series? It is your last image.
I`m seeking 50/219 , 50/221 or 50/335 stamp marks on body , it is 76-mm AAA AP-shell.

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Artem, how did you get those printed Russian descriptions of museum exhibits?

Some years ago i got digital copy (pdf) a part of museum index by my friens.
USSubs showed pages from it catalogue.

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I’m afraid not. As I mentioned in part earlier, I was given permission to examine and photograph historic examples of Russian chemical weapons and ordnance manufactured by Japan, two projects that I was deeply involved in at the time. The curator that was escorting us initially would not allow photography of anything else, but by the end of the week he softened and I was racing through the collection to just get as many photographs as I could, of everything - So I was taking “shelf-shots” getting as many rounds with as much detail as possible in the time available. I was still taking pictures as we exited the building at the end of the visit. Slowing down to take any detailed shots meant less of everything else was captured, so there was not enough time. Sorry -

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Sad :(
Аnyway, infinite thank you - it is first images about their treasury, and your`s galery is very complete.

If anyone need decryption from the photo by code on shell - tell me, i try search its in index.
2 USSubs - send to you pages with chem ammo?

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Thanks, but I had those pages translated by my Belorussian colleague at the time. Where did you get your copy of the document? I posted it on an ordnance forum several years ago, is it the same, or have any updates been made?

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