More Yugoslave


#1

This posting adds to my previous post concerning the Yugoslave


#2

Firstly, what does “Sifra” mean?


#3

John
From what I’ve been able to determine (verified by EOD), it means “Code”


#4

Phil, great collection and research!


#5

Phil - I have had the “59” and “61” in my collection for years, but I had never seen the box labels before your posting. Interesting.

The “59” date also is found in a dummy - I have one. It is the standard red-plastic filled dummy with the various anchor holes on the case and bullet, as well as the all red plastic “primer.” I suppose it is not really significant, though, since they probably used any reject cases to make these dummies. I doubt that it has anything to do with the purpose for whcih these “date only” rounds were made.


#6

John, or could it be that these dummies were delivered together with the rifles and cartridges?

An interesting item anyways.


#7

A Lot of words in the slavic languages have similar oprigins to the same words in European Romance languages.

The Root word here is “Ziphr” ( Middle ages Arabic) meaning "0"M (Zero), but also meaning, in general terms, “Numbers”.

The route of this word, and the concept of "Zero’ in mathematics, came to Europe through italy ( Cifra ( “a Number”); Cifrare–"to deal with numbers;
De-cifrare-- “Decipher, unravel the mystery, understand…Decode”.

The Balkans having a similar Arabic/Turkish occupation for several centuries, also adopted the Word into Slavonic, and Hence, Serbo-Croat (same language, different Alphabets).
The end result is a slightly different spelling but the meanings are the same in all related languages…" a Number, or Code."

Just as “Cypher” has different contextual meanings in English, so does it have in other Languages (Italian, Serbo-Croat, etc.).

regards,
Doc AV
AV Ballistics.


#8

John