More "Zombie ammo"

It looks like Hornady’s lead is being followed. Elite Ammunition, makers of custom 5.7x28 loads now offers the “ZombinaTOR”. It has pretty tame velocity for a 5.7 at 1000fps out of the FiveseveN pistol, but the case coloration is certainly unique:
http://www.eliteammunition.net/catalog/item/8323509/9041419.htm

You can’t beat the marketing:

[quote]“Does the thought of a reanimated Moammar Gaddafi have you down?
Does the idea of some evil undead making a snack of your brain keep you up at night?
Yes that’s right, we’re talking the coming Zombie Apocalypse. It used to be a problem, but not any more…
Protect yourself and the ones you love with the new ZombinaTOR from Elite Ammunition”[/quote]

Lord, this is even sillier than Hornady. The words “no class” come to mind.

[quote=“JohnMoss”]Lord, this is even sillier than Hornady. The words “no class” come to mind.[/quote]Somebody has taken a snack of the marketers brains…
Soren

I am guessing that it’s a sign of the times whereas the target market of relatively young men (for something like the 5.7) is keen on video games, and tv/movies related to this sort of thing. And also strictly as a novelty / collectible. A lot of this stuff like the Hornady stuff will probably remain in vaults and on shelves once purchased. Regardless, sales will no doubt be brisk.

Oh, I have no doubt that they will sell it. As with the Hornady, I will probably make myself the IAA’s foremost hypocrite and if anyone offers a round, or even a box, of the 5.7 Zombie… What-ever-in-the-hell, I will probably buy it for my collection. I don’t even know who that company is. I assume it will not have any special headstamp or even their headstamp.

Elite uses FN brass, and loads several 22cal projectiles that others don’t load. They are collectible basically for the boxes with labels and unique projo loads. They did have a bunch of interesting brass projectiles which the BATFE very recently put the kibosh to after deciding to include the Barnes 224 banded solids in their pistol caliber AP list, which the Elite brass bullets were similar to in metallurgy.

These appear to have been manufactured by the zombies themselves. If things continue this way we may have a Zombie Ammunition Factory (ZAF) in the future.

Color me skeptical, but what is shooting the undead supposed to accomplish anyway?

It’s widely accepted that zombies are driven by their brains, so the central nervous system must be functioning. And for movement to be possible at all, the peripheral system is also needed. But in zombies it appears that the autonomic system may be down, so the can devote more brain power to the needs of the central and peripheral subdivisions. This would reduce the amount of energy the zombie brain and body needs to function, potentially allowing it to survive longer with less.

So theoretically you should be able to destroy the central nervous system to render a zombie paralyzed. However, because so little of a Zombie’s brain is crucial to their survival, zombies can survive an enormous loss of brain tissue. Former FVZA zombie specialist, Dr. Waxman Himmelburger, tells of encountering a zombie who had lost over 3/4 of his head from a shotgun blast, with no apparent effect. Also, zombies have exhibited the ability to withstand significant trauma to their central nervous system.

So in my opinion the best way to kill a zombie would be to completely sever their spinal cord and/or completely destroy their brain.

Shooting them in the correct places could do this, and shooting them could definitely slow them down if you are able to remove a limb or two.

But here would be the best ways:

DECAPITATION.

To kill zombies, you need to destroy their brains. The most surefire route is simply lopping off the cranium with a chainsaw, machete, or samurai sword. Mind the follow-through, however-- anything less than 100 percent severance just isn’t good enough.

BLUDGEONING.

Any blunt object–from a baseball bat to a brick–wielded with suitable force at the cranium will destroy the brain. But be quick on your feet and keep your eye on the target, slugger–when you’re this close to a zombie, miss even once and you might as well just hand your brains to the zombie on a silver platter.

BURNING.

Don’t have the convenience of a sniper rifle to take out zombies from afar? The next best thing is a Molotov cocktail–just make sure the zombies are far enough away so they’ll be reduced to ashes before they can shamble after you.

EXPLODING.

A solid technique, but one that requires heavy weaponry. In the chaos that will doubtlessly strike an urban center after a zombie infestation, make your way to a military storehouse or a morally dubious pawn shop and acquire a rocket launcher. Then shoot, load, and repeat.

I think my kids play that video game, too. Waxman Himmelburger?

The good Doctor now lives in Houston and was a trainer for the Astros

I think the rounds have been chemically treated to have that effect on the brass to make them look different.

Sure, copper 70%, zinc 29.5% and blood 0.5%.

hello
the cases of 5.7x28 have a chemical film to aid for extract
with red ink i think i can have the same effect
but for the bullet ???

I’m not sure where all this is going from an ammo industry point of view. Sure it will sell ammo simply from the number of views the advert is getting but has it really come to this?

Is it any coincidence it comes out around haloween? Sure going to keep those trick or treaters indoors this year that is for sure. Are we to expect Christmas ammo? Birthday ammo? etc. Faked GI packaging for the readers of Soldier of Fortune?

I think its cheap marketing and not the image we want to project. Nutcase ammo I think it will backfire on them and no pun intended.

[quote=“VinceGreen”]
I think its cheap marketing and not the image we want to project. Nutcase ammo I think it will backfire on them and no pun intended.[/quote]

This ammo does not IMHO reflect an adverse image about ammunition collectors. Most people don’t even realise there are “ammunition collectors”.

If I was a shooter I’d only buy zombie ammo if it was lower priced than “normal” ammo. However…If anyone has an inert zombie round and they are not sure what to do with it… :)

[quote=“VinceGreen”]Are we to expect Christmas ammo? Birthday ammo? etc. Faked GI packaging for the readers of Soldier of Fortune?
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This has already been done. Remington have done some Christmas themed tins of .22LR in the past. I have seen them on this forum.

Yes but I would have hoped that the industry would not have seen the need to sink to this. Along with zombie videos and the like. Any connection with “fantasy” is unhelpful to an industry supplying products of lethal force. It implies that users are living in the blurred edge of reality and gives fuel to the detractors who can then (quite rightly) suggest they are less than fit people to be trusted with such things. How can a person running around with an assault rifle and zombie ammunition be regarded as an upstanding citizen? Its playing into their hands. They will make hay with this, its a gift to them.

Never under estimate an “anti” on a mission

My local indoor shooting range brings in a LOT of first time shooters. The range has started selling zombie targets at about 4times the price of a regular target (and about half as big). I bet that 90% of those shooters pick zombie targets. The place goes through tons of them. No doubt that it’s at the top of the silliness chart, but I think it’s great marketing. I’ve had three different casual shooter friends bring up the Hornady ammo in conversation. I won’t be buying any, but I wish that I would have come up with the idea.

And I’m really happy that no one is selling 7.62x54R zombie ammo because I’d have to find someone to buy me some (I wouldn’t want anyone to see me buying it in person).

Actually, I think some of them are. A post I saw in another forum starts like so:

[color=#0000FF]“After many off-and-on months of research into cartridges, platforms, etc. I have finally decided on the caliber. My dream is to own a reliable, portable, accurate rifle for a SHTF / zombie apocalypse scenario. When imagining my zombie apocalypse and the required firepower to combat said flesh-mongers, I like to imagine 28 Days Later zombies, as they are infinitely more worrisome to me than Walking Dead zombies.”[/color][quote]…and gives fuel to the detractors who can then (quite rightly) suggest they are less than fit people to be trusted with such things. How can a person running around with an assault rifle and zombie ammunition be regarded as an upstanding citizen? Its playing into their hands. They will make hay with this, its a gift to them.[/quote]
That was my concern exactly, when I first saw the Hornady Z-MAX advertised. But, there’s nothing to be done about it, other than keep our fingers crossed and hope the anti-gun nuts let it pass.