Mystery belt/ammunition can


#1

7,9 x 57 ammunition, what gun is this from?


#2

These are links for the Madsen MG as manufactured for Germany during the war. As far as I know they were used by the air force for base defense.


#3

The Madsen links look similar to Browning links but the rear loop does not completely encircle the cartridge case. The loop goes just over half way round. The star-shaped holes punched through the central web of the link identify the calibre; one star=7x57mm; two stars=7.92x57mm.

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#4

thanks, didn’t know there was a belt fed variant of the madsen…


#5

Belt fed Madsens were not very common, but the ones made for the Luftwaffe during the occupation were simply put, a 7,92 mm version of the 8 mm aircraft mounted gun made for the danish army and navy air corps. The first belt fed experimental guns were delivered to the army air corps in 1926. These used a different link type than the one shown.
The first use of the one on the picture is in 1933. Guns of this type had a link chute and collector bag.
That box and belt is a nice find!
Soren

vaabenhistoriskselskab.dk/ar … editid1=45


#6

[quote=“mausernut”]The first belt fed experimental guns were delivered to the army air corps in 1926. These used a different link type than the one shown.
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This one I assume:

Have some of them somewhere but not photographed yet.


#7

Exactly!

Soren


#8

Hello,

@ duchamp, can you please confirm that your Madsen links are black overall ?

If so, are they matt phosphated or glossy black ?

Thanks


#9

[quote=“JFL”]Hello,

@ duchamp, can you please confirm that your Madsen links are black overall ?

If so, are they matt phosphated or glossy black ?

Thanks[/quote]

Would there be a meaning to the surface finishes like production periods?
If I recall right I have seen plain ones as well.


#10

these actually aren’t mine, this came up on another forum and no one had a satisfactory answer, here is one more shot. they were found in a lake in finland.

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