Need help identifying two items


#1

Going thru my grandfather’s old box, I found two items. I had hoped to post an image along with this query but see that images cannot be directly uploaded. I will do my best to describe the items. The first is a cylindrical copper tube like affair, rounded at the top, with a small projection(less than 1/8") on the very tip. The base is moderately flaired. Overall length is 1.25" and the cylinder diameter is .355. I have no clue what it is.

The second item is a cartridge which has no headstamp, but is centerfire with a primer. The rim is .422, base.380, case length .85-.87, and the bullet is a little less than.38. What perplexes me is the bullet itself appears to be six sided, coming to a point more or less. I am wondering if this is my grandfather’s handiwork with a penknife or are there cartridges out there which fit this description. Thanks for your help. Grandpa lived in the late 1880’s. Any help uploading a picture to this site also appreciated.


#2

Herky

Go here for instructions on how to post images on the Forum. I suggest you use PhotoBucket. Once you have your image on PhotoBucket, use the LAST choice,{img}, under your picture to post the image. After you click on {img}, go to your Forum post and click on CTRL-V to put the image where you want it.

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#3

The first item sounds very much like a teat-fire cartridge, but pictures would definitely help with both of these.


#4

herky

I’m positive that your first cartridge is a teatfire, possibly without a bullet.

Go to the Home Page. On the left, click on Ammunition Glossary. Scroll down to Teatfire Cartridge and see if that’s it.

A photo of both, especially the second, will help.

Ron

Where the heck is CTRL-V ??? I copy and paste from Photobucket. Am I doing it wrong ???

Ray


#5

Ray–No, your just doing extra work. CTRL-V (Press and hold CTRL, then press V) is on your keyboard. It is the shortcut for “Paste”. CTRL-C is the shortcut for “Copy”.


#6

Ron

Thanks for that little trick. I have a feeling there other things about my PC that I’m not aware of. ;) ;)

Ray


#7

[quote=“Ray Meketa”]Ron

Thanks for that little trick. I have a feeling there other things about my PC that I’m not aware of. ;) ;)

Ray[/quote]

Ray, it took 4 weeks to realise that my computer had a grenade holder on it…


#8

Simon

Ahhh So ! That’s what that tray is for.

Ray


#9

Armourer,
Please pardon my nosiness, but what’s in this familiar looking red and yellow cartridge boxes on the shelf in the lower right of your picture of that handy grenade holder.


#10

Ray–I’m sure there are lots of unknown PC tricks. I have been working with computers since 1965 and I STILL find out new things about my PC all the time.


#11

Here is a picture of the cartridges Herky tried to describe. He sent them to me for posting. As can be seen, the first item, as has been guessed by others is a .32 National Teatfire (Round Tit).


#12

Based on the measurements provided, it would appear the second cartridge is an early outside lubed .38 Long Colt that has had the bullet trimmed down.


#13

[quote=“Guy Hildebrand”]Armourer,
Please pardon my nosiness, but what’s in this familiar looking red and yellow cartridge boxes on the shelf in the lower right of your picture of that handy grenade holder.[/quote]

Empty Kynoch boxes. :-)


#14

Thanks to all who helped me identify the two items. This is a great site! Now I know the item in question is in fact a cartridge and not just some miscellaneous piece of metal. The Teatfire on closer exam does have a grey looking ball inside it. I don’t think I will probe around on that.
Thanks also to the moderator for the hints with posting fotos. Will have to screw up my courage and skills and try that. I have also an old rifle leaf site that I would like to know more about so will try that as a photo soon.
Thanks again