Need help with these cartridges


#1

Hello


The 30 Carbine cartridges are probaly identified.The red plastic one is an aftermarket item,with no ID markings,for practice. The white cased one is probably a “dummy” round.
The 9mm head stamp is either 8AE or BAE.
The 32 S&W has no markings,at all.
Frank


#2

The red .30 Carbine is a Norwegian blank and the black blan is German by Dynamit AG.

The 9mm is a British made round for Sten guns, the headstamp is B (broad arrow) E and was made at Royal Ordnance factory Blackpole in Worcestershire. date is probably 1943 or 44.

Regards
tonyE


#3

Are you sure the unmarked 32 S&W round has no headstamps?I think to see some marks on the base


#4

The .32 S&W appears to have a headstamp - looks like ‘S&W’ at 12 o’clock and ‘32’ at 6 o’clock. This is a European headstamp, most likely German.


#5

Guy,and others
I see that S&W is also listed as Smith & Wesson.Did they manufacture any cartridges?
Frank


#6

Smith & Wesson never made centerfire ammunition. The cartridge is a 32 S&W, which is all the headstamp is referring to.


#7

Tony, I zoomed in on the B (broad arrow) E and it is a 41 date. Very nice item.


#8

Lew,
That particular round is marked: B A E 43 9MM
Frank


#9

Guy: Your comment that S&W never made any center fire cartridges, means? there are no S&W center fire cartridge or some other company made them for S&W? Vic


#10

Smith & Wesson marketed cartridges some years ago. However, they were all made by other companies for them.

Kragman - that center figure in your BE British 9mm round is not the letter “A” in any form. It is the British Broad Arrow (upside down V with a post running from the center up to the top edges, representing an arrow head), a military property mark of the UK.

Lew says the date on your cartridges is 41; you say it is 43. Which is it?


#11

John
There is an easy to see 43 on the base of the 9mm cartridge
Zooming up does not change it.
Frank


#12

John
I’m confused about the 32 S&W cartridge.Should I catalogue it as European;probably German-or-as Smith&Wesson made.
Frank


#13

Frank

You’re making the S&W thing more complicated than it needs to be.

Many cartridges are named after the firearm they were first used in. 32 S&W, 45 Colt, 30-06 Springfield. Etc.

Most firearms makers did not manufacture ammunition. Smith & Wesson is one who did not. The manufacturer of the cartridge is usually ID’d by the headstamp or by other distinguishing marks or characteristics. I can’t say who made your particular 32 S&W cartridge but if the Old Ammo Guy thinks the headstamp indicates German manufacture I’d put a lot of faith in his opinion.

Ray


#14

Ray
I hear you,and will comply.
Thanks
Frank


#15

I thnk it is 43, Lew.

I do have a 41 though, as I am sure you do, but there are not a lot around.

Regards
Tony