Need ID help Rimfire


#1

I hope some of you can give me the I.D. of this rimfire cartridge.
Thank you


#2

which one? appear to be 4 Spencers and a Ballard(your#4)


#3

Hi
Need I.D. on all of them, are them all 56-56 Spencer and # 4 is a 54 Ballard ?

Thanks


#4

Alex,

It’s hard to say without dimension or headstamps. Just by looks I’d guess #1 is a 56-52 Spencer, #2 is a Commercial 56-56 Spencer (Winchester?), #3 is an Army-Navy 56-56 Spencer military load (US Civil War), #4 is what was previously called a 54 Ballard but current thinking lists it as a 52 Sharps & Hankins and #5 looks to be a 56-50 Spencer military load.

Paul


#5

Hi Rimfire

The dimension and headstamp are typed on the top of the picture, click on the picture and the size will be bigger and easy to read.
Thanks


#6

Hello Alex,

Sorry I didn’t think to enlarge the photo! The first one may be a 56-50 Spencer by Winchster. Sometimes it’s had to tell the 56-50 and 56-52 apart.
The 56-52 most of the time has a slight bottle neck. Sometimes it’s easier to feel it than to see it. The rest appear to be as stated in my previous post.
The SAW 56-50 Spencer was made by Sage Ammunition Work between 1864 and 1866 on contract for the US Goverment. The 54 Ballard/52 Sharps & Hankins was probably made by C.D. Leet. Closer examination of tool marks would be need to confirm this (and still there could be doubt).

Paul


#7

Hi Paul

Thank you very much
Do you have any help on the two other I posted yesterday