"New" Cartridges Found


#1

I picked these up at a local gun show this past Sunday.
They were in a plastic bag, and the guy said I had to take them all, or none.
He MADE me pay $3 each!
From right to left:
KYNOCH 577 NITRO
HOLLAND & HOLLAND 465
KYNOCK [C C] .450/400
KYNOCK .450/400J
ELEY LONDON 450/400
RWS [* *] 9.3X74R (Steel bullet!)
DWM 474C 9.3X62
KYNOCK 375
ELEY 360 NITRO
KYNOCH .280
.280 ELEY
KYNOCK .318 NITRO
HOLLAND .240
Sorry about the low res photos…





#2

Some of the others I picked up at the show…
7.62x39, 10 rounds in a sealed pack + 9 loose, round nose steel bullet. HS= 05 (over) 77
7.62x54R, (2) 20 round box +2 loose, jacketed plastic tipped [?!] bullet. HS= bxn (over) 79
Eley Alphamax Buckshot, 10 round box.




#3

And the rest of the haul from last weekend. Total expense for all, about $85.00. And, no, I have never been that lucky!
(2) Box 12 ga XM162 [Federal]…
(3) Rnds Rem-Umc Sureshot 20 ga, #6, found in…
(1) Box Peters High Velocity 20 ga, #6, w/11 rounds…




#5

Good bunch of stuff. I should mention Kynoch is not spelled with a “K” at the end


#6

Content of the sealed package 7,62 x 39 seems inert to me. The Üb stands for Übung, German for exercise. I would say from the former GDR. The loose ones are definitely from the GDR: manufacturer is Spreewerke, 1977.


#7

Übung disnt mean an inert Training/Dummy.
It IS a LIVE round with plasticfilled Bullet, so do NOT USE it as suggested above, as a inert Drill round…You can kill yourself or bystanders…

Forensic


#8

Oh, yea, I know… but typing with one-and-a-half hands sometimes hets the wrong keys, and I miss it before I press enter/reply/post.
I think I spelled it both ways… and maybe a third :-)


#9

Thanks, I thought it was awefully light, figured it might have been an indoor training round.
I was mildly surprised when a magnet stuck to the bullet.


#10

Excuse me, I was too fast and mixed it up with Ex, which is the abbreviation for the real dummy of course.


#11

Übung means practice, these are sintered steel/iron with plastic core IIRC, for short range practice.
As for your 7.62x54R, are these really plastic tipped? They look like hollow short range bullets, which have a metal jacket with very thin layer of lead inside. There is also a tracer variant (which is teal over white).

Ole


#12

They looked/felt/sounded plastic to me, and as I am an Old Guy with Colour Blindness
issues- I am not sure what ‘Teal’ actually looks like- I cannot swear to a colour. And
my eyes are gettin’ worse… and so is my hearing…

So, I looked at the 7.62x54R cartridges, closer, with a more powerful loupe, and yes,
they are fully jacketed with the round nose tips painted.
Thanks, appreciate the identifications!


#13

Jack,
Are you somewhere in Canada? Because, depending upon where you are, there are some awesome gun and ammo shows, many close to Canadian border, but on the other side.


#14

No, I am just a few miles- WAY to few miles!- west of Washington, D.C.

There are no cartridge shows- that I am aware of- anywhere close by, but there are plenty of gun shows with a fair-to-middlin’ collection of collectors* who show up.

  • Collectors, as defined as guys who have ammo, which they usually don’t know what it actually is, or what it may actually be worth, which is good for ME!

#15

The two PA shows, in June and August, are within range.


#16

Define ‘within range’. I might not be up for a 2~4 hour drive…

The Antique show at Timmonium in March is about my limit, some days.


#17

The Nation’s Gun Show at Dulles Expo Center must be in your reach on Nov.16-18 https://www.showmastersgunshows.com/nation-s-gun-show-.html


#18

Yes, in fact I will be there on Friday, and Sunday, sitting at the Virginia Gun Collectors Association set of tables, but probably not the December show.