Nice haul of 8X33mm


#1

You old collecting hands are probably way ahead of me.

But, I find that a lot of people misspell Kurz as “Kurtz” - maybe they like Joseph Conrad novellas.

I did a GB search and found rather good quantity of ammo going for what I thought was very cheap.
It was marked as 101 rounds of Kurtz ammo.
What arrived this morning was:

fva 16 44 st (Loose some rust) X 35
LC68 (reloads I presume) X 55
04 61 (boxed) 7 X 15 round boxes
FNM 8X33 X 4

Box markings:
15 stuck 7,92-mmPtr,-Kz 43 SmE
mit St. -Hulse
14/1 gefertigt am: 13,9,61

I put the wartime rounds on stripper clips and applied a very minimal drop of oil to them to halt the rust.
Hence the paper tray -
This is not a valuable haul, or super collectable, but i am sort of a novice to this, and own an MP44, so have a special connection to this caliber.
So, I was quite pleased with it - and share accordingly :)


#2

I wouldn’t expect much shootability with the wartime ammo, but the post-war stuff should go fine in your rifle. You’re very lucky to have the MP…enjoy.


#3

Even the 1961 German stuff has historic value to me -

With PPU and Hornady making modern ammo - I don’t need to shoot my collection - smile.


#4

I saw some FNM 8x33 listed recently on GB which were modified gunshow loads with red or green tracer elements added. The description however was seemingly passing them off as original.


#5

The 8x33 is a collectible round.
Personally I collect German cartridges on head stamps and other markings like different primer types, bullets.

The nicest thing, this calibre has a beginning and an end, for me 1945.
And……it fits all in a small case.

The empty places must be filled.

Rgds
Dutch


#6

So Dutch,
What’s the story about that lonely one in the top right corner??? Must be a special one.


#7

[quote=“jonnyc”]So Dutch,
What’s the story about that lonely one in the top right corner??? Must be a special one.[/quote]

Yes.


#8

Dutch,
May you tell me/us a story behind this round?


#9

The cartridges headstamped LC 68 are unknown handloads in reformed brass and shouldn’t be fired. Jack


#10

I concur with Jack. In fact, out of a highly valuable firearm like a Sturmgewehr, I would not fire any of the WWII German ammo either. With much German steel-case ammo now, after almost 70 years, rusting through from the inside, imagine what a catastrophic case failure would do to that rarely found and terribly expensive collector’s piece, not to mentioan a poor handload. The only ammo mentioned that I would fire, without hesitation, is the Portuguese FNM ammo. Portuguese military rifle ammo is uniformily among the best made. I have used it in both 7.62 NATO and 8 mm Mauser (and much less in 9 mm Para). The 7.62 ball from FNM I have fired was more accurate than Lake City Match. The 7.52 ammo was fired in a variety of weapons - M1A, several FALs, HK91 and two bolt actions, a Remington 40XB BR Heavy Varmint Class rifle and an Israeli conversion of a Czech vz 24 Mauser to 7.62 NATO. The 8 mm (7.9 x 57) was fired in a standard 1942 Sauer K98k.


#11

John, to what I been told the Portuguese 7.92x33 are made by PPU.


#12

Do not worry - as stated above - modern Hornady or PPU (FNM) ammo only.
My ammo collection is not for shooting - just showing.

The hand-loads are not going to be shot -

That is a great collection, Dutch, a case for the true connoisseur of Polte Kurz.


#13

EOD - thanks for the info. I should have known that the Kurz rounds were made by PPU. Some other calibers were. I should have known because I think this ammo post-dates the general cessation of ammunition production at the Portuguese factory.

Well, PPU ammo is o.k. too - in my view, not as good as FNM’s original products, but still quite decent.