Odd .303 ID


#1

Just got this .303 round at Williamsport.
CN (non-mag) jacket, brass case, copper primer, two stake crimps on the neck. The nail-like bit at the bullet tip is magnetic. The headstamp is K C II. Please pardon the pics, but I really did try! I have looked in all my books concerning .303, looking for some kind of early OBS, INC, or HE loading. Unfortunately I do not have the L&M .303 book. Any help?




#2

Jonny,

There’s Tony Edwards site: sites.google.com/site/britmilammo/-303-inch

FWIW, I hate to say it but it looks like someone’s workshop special, possibly a nail stuck in the nose of a Mark II Special bullet.

Brian


#3

Always possible, but the price was low and the pedigree was good.
Here’s a better pic:

Please excuse the hair…sorry, not mine!


#4

Jon, it doesn’t look like any of the documented explosive loadings but in any case the headstamp is too early to consider this possibility. Also, it is not a Holland’s “pegged” sporting bullet either, but it looks to me like something handmade that was based on this design. Regards, Fede.


#5

Having a better image helps. It doesn’t look like something made in recent years and the “insert” doesn’t have the look of a newer nail, so I can see how this might be something to investigate.

Brian


#6

Hi Jon
The nails on the early H&H Peg points were somewhat hand made with square shanks.
Here is a photo of two in profile & as can be seen the ‘rims’ are quite different & with the ‘nipple’ on the head of the one you show marking it as machine made.


#7

I was absentmindedly playing with the round a few minutes ago, and to my horror, the “nail” bit came out. Below is a pic of the projo with the nail bit in the background. Please ignore the table scratches.


#8

Just got a learned message from the UK identifying the round as a legit “Holland and Holland patent “Nail” bullet”. I’ve searched in my military sources, not to fixed to research commercial ammo.