Old European 12g Shotgun Primer Sizes/Style


#1

Hi all. A friend recently brought to my attention a difference in primer style in some old Baikal 12ga rounds. They are obviously a different style to the 209s we see today. This primer size/style has also been observed on an FN 12g and S&B 12g from roughly the same era as the Baikal.

What are the details of this primer size/style? Pictures are from both of us.
TIA
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#2

The Russians do referr to this primer as the “Gevelot” type.
Nothing special in this I think.


#3

If you are interested I know a gentleman who is a primer historian and cartridge collector, I should be seeing him this weekend and can ask if he is ok with me giving you his email as I do not think he is on the forum.


#4

That would be great thanks.

Even if you could just show him these pics and type his response.


#5

Thank you.
Do you have any sources for that?

I Looked up Gévelot style shotgun primers and even in older looking packers it’s got the standard style primer of today.


#6

The Baikal cartridges are loaded with the Russian “Gevelot” closed type 5,67 mm primer. This is the “N” variant with non-rusting composition that is marked “NG” in Latin letters. It was manufactured by several companies, all using the same marking.