Otto Witt and Tony Sailer cartridges

I was going to post a response to Mel’s “Birthday cartridge” thread asking about these two cartridges. But not wanting to hi-jack Mel’s great thread I decided to post a separate thread.

I recently acquired 2 different .50 Sharps cases. One is headstamped “OTTO WITT SPL” and the second “TONY SAILER 50 SH”. Any info anyone might have on them would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Zac

Look at the 1st photo Williamsport,PA 2012 show photos

The one for Otto was made by BELL & a man named D.P. Wirth made the bunters for them. Most were made in small lot of perhaps only 20 examples. Otto was also the main connection to Jim Bell & Wirth in getting these done.
Other headstamps in .50 3 1/4" by BELL & Wirth I’m aware of are:
GUNMAKER SHOP INC
D. DAVISON
MOUCKA GUNMAKER
JAMES TILLINGHAST
TONYS MOUSE GUN
BELL .50 SHARPS
ROSOTTO (for Rose and Otto Witt)
JOHN SCOTT P.G.C.A (John was the treasurer of the PA Gun Collectors Assoc.
JOHN HINTLIAN
GARRET
CHICAGO 1985
Edited to add the one I had made.
C T G 1990 - 1991 (Cartridge Transfer Group noting my 1st year of that business)
edited again
T. C. C. A. 1990 (Texas Cartridge Collectors Assoc. display award for the 1990 show, made with & without a paper patched lead bullet & the story goes only 5 were made. Assembled by Kenny Konx)

Photo of the HS on the Sailer example might help ID it.

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Tony Sailer, This wasn’t the Austrian Olympic skier from the late 50’s and early 60’s was it???

Pete,
Thanks. I appreciate the info.

Sportingclay,
I wish I knew.
Thanks

photo Zac?

I should have done that to start with. Here you go Pete. These are both .50 Sharps cases. 6787 6788

The company till exists, and makes ,of course, ski-clothing…
He died in 2009…RIP, .if he is/was related to that cartridge, I do not knew…
If he was a hunter, it maybe the case…at least, he had enough money, to order his own cartridges…

Peter

I doubt that Toni Sailer was related to that cartridge, because anyone close to him would have known that Tony was misspelled.

That Sailer headstamp does look like a BELL / Wirth product.

So it seems a new one to me, to look for.

This “Tony Sailer” was Anthony F. Sailer (1926-2015), a custom ammunition and bullet manufacturer that was first located in Marenisco, Michigan and later moved to Owen, Wisconsin. He was a case forming specialist and offered many obsolete calibers, including European metrics and wildcats. Also worked for C-H- Tool & Die Corporation.

Regards,

Fede

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Thanks Fede. Where he lived & his business, ties in perfectly with the Otto Witt / D. P. Wirth & Jim Bell connection.

Fede, you are the ammunition encyclopedia
You must have a fantastic archive
Thank you for all your interventions
Jean

Well as some of you know I live in Northern Michigan. This information is all very interesting and greatly appreciated. Thank you all.
Zac

Added another to my above list