(PL) Munitionsfabrik Danzig - Fabryka amunicji w Gdańsku

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In first my list confirmed HS cases made by Munitionsfabrik Danzig (Gdańsk) in caliber 11x60R Mauser :

and others calibers


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still search
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and for little remember markings boxes made by Art.-Depot Danzig:

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similar topic on IAA:

Confused 43 Mauser H/S Maker

E, D, and S, headstamped 11mm Mausers

11,15x60R Mauser M.71 - Spandau question

Artillerie Depot - ammunition making

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I can confirm;

1882 - 4
1882 - 8
1882- 9
1882 - 10
1983 - 6
1884 - 3
1887 - 12

If you need a picture of the head stamp let me know.

Rgds

Here is what I know about - it includes the ones you mention:

Calibre Title Note Company Code
10.5x47R Lorenz MB Target D 10 * 88 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik- shot MB85
12.4x42R Bornmüller MB Target D 2 * 80 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB47
10.5x47R Lorenz MB Target D 2 * 88 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB85
11.25x50R MB Target D 5 * 80 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB97
9.5x47R Utendoerffer MB b Target D 5 * 88 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB76
12.3x40R MB Target D 6 * 88 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB29
12.4x42R Bornmüller MB Target D 8 * 79 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB47
11.15x37R Grenzaufseher D 9 * 88 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB139
9.5x47R Utendoerffer MB b Target D 9 * 88 Ex-Danzig Munitionsfabrik MB76

Thanks WBD!
What I know. Phil B., sent me a list in 2011 from: “Die Munition zum Mausergewehr M71” by Windisch and Kellner. He had 2 not on the list, (1 D and 1 S) and I had one. (E). PJB listed 9 more and Dutch added two more hs to the D list. Any chance the authors can post the list?
Thanks,
Dan

Hi Dan

I know of about 10 hs that aren’t in Windisch and Kellner, including Lorenz, DWM etc.

There must be updated lists somewhere for each of the factories but I guess this is a start here for Danzig.

A question that intrigues me is how many of the “Sporting MB cases” with Arsenal HS’s were actually produced by the following methods ?

  • By the Arsenals themselves as original Sporting cases (if any), or
  • By the Arsenals as modified 11mm Mauser cases (if any), or
  • Were produced by modifying 11m Mauser case carried out by other companies, or
  • Were done by the public when there were shortages of such cases for Target shooting, or
  • Were done by collectors/dealers to sell as Collector items ??

I suspect we can never know for sure but maybe examples of all five production types could exist, some certainly do - eg the last option.

Here is the book Phil B. and Brad mentioned.
Die%20Munition%20zum%20Mausergewehr%20M71%20by%20Windisch%20and%20Kellner%20rs
I do not have it.
Dan

Dan, save yourself from obtaining it!

Hi
I have such HS, M71 Danzig

7 D 76 *
8 D 76 *
6 D 77 *
7 D 77 *
11 D 77 *
5 D 78 *
5 D 78 .*.
6 D 78 .*.
6 D 78 *
7 D 78 *
10 D 78 *
11 D 78 *
2 D 79 *
6 D 79 *
7 D 80 *
8 D 80 *
1 D 81 *
3 D 81 *
5 D 81 *
6 D 81 *
7 D 81 *
8 D 81 *
9 D 81 *
10 D 81 *
11 D 81 *
2 D 82 *
8 D 82 *
10 D 82 *
11 D 82 *
12 D 82 *
1 D 83 *
5 D 83 *
9 D 83 *
12 D 83 *
8 D 84 *
4 D 85 *
5 D 85 *
6 D 85 *
12 D 85 *
2 D 86 *
3 D 86 *
6 D 86 *
7 D 86 *
8 D 86 *
9 D 86 *
10 D 86 *
3 D 87 *
4 D 87 *
7 D 87 *
1 D 88 *
2 D 88 *
4 D 88 *
6 D 88 *
7 D 88 *
8 D 88 *

Rufus

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If PJB is keeping score, Rufus added 8 more to the list:)
1876 7,8
1880 7
1882 11
1883 5
1885 4, 5
1886 8
By the way it’s looking, they may have made them all from 5-1876 to 2 1889…
I hope the starting list in the book was correct.
Thanks!
Dan

Wow :)
Great job, thanks for all.

This actual our compilation:
(without HS from “Die Munition zum Mausergewehr M71” by Windisch and Kellner)

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and sporting ammo

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And new one - 10,6x25R Reichsrevolver

D 1 * 01

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Thanks Everyone!
I can add :
11 76
10 85
10 88
PJB, let me know if You want pics.
Thanks AveDanzig, I have a similar with S (Spandau), and it is also later, 03 with the * on top.
Thanks for the note EOD.
Edit: I misread the date. It’s 06

s1%20rt

S%204%2006%20center%20cp
center 4 * 06 S
left G. EGESTORFF + LINDEN b/H +
right LORENZ + KARLSRUHE +
Dan

And at the last in tribute to Jarek Ciemiński supplemented with his elaboration:
„Znakowanie łusek wojskowej amunicji strzeleckiej wybranych krajów europejskich”; Archeologia Wojenna Extra tom ,1 2014 (trans.:“Marking cases of military shooting ammunition of selected European countries”)

I’m sorry but I could not find this papers before, and it was necessary to reach from the beginning…

PJB,
Did he supply the list for the book? The list now matches our finds with the books’ list. 13 missing if I did it correctly.
What are the * on 5,6 1878?
Thanks,
Dan

star with two dot like this

m71danzig878

Thanks, I had not seen them before.
Dan

D on 10,6x25R is production from Munitionsfabrik Dresden

In the summer, I plan to go to Gdańsk and maybe visit some interesting places, such as
Królewska Pruska Fabryka Karabinów w Gdańsku ( Königlich Preußische Gewehrfabrik Danzig)

Why there?
Because it was there were produced cases and ammunition caliber 11x60R Mauser.
The name found in the documents at the time was: Gewehr- und Munitionsfabrik Danzig

Maybe write something interesting by this time about this history.

However, you must be content with the website by

http://www.jimbojack.com/Countries/Poland/Gdansk_KFK.html

More information about location

https://fotopolska.eu/Gdansk/b88239,Szpital_weterynaryjny_Krzeminskiego.html

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