First of all, as John Moss pointed out, I was very careful NOT to say 1923 was the 1st use of the “REM-UMC” headstamp, but only that it is the 1st catalog I have that shows artwork using it on the cartridges.
Second, I agree that it may well, most likely is, a case of just did not bother, for whatever reason, most likely cost, to change the artwork.
From 1911 to 1923 I have the following catalogs:
1911/12 (combined) illustrated catalog
1913/14 (combined) illustrated catalog
1917 Price List Only
1923 Illustrated Catalog
OK, those are the facts of what I am working with. Now for some more information. In answer to Lew’s question about what do new introductions show. The answer is nothing. The 1913/14 catalog lists .22 Savage H.P. and 5.5 Velo-Dog as new for that catalog, but neither cartridge is shown in the artwork, only in the price list part of the catalog. Since I only have one price list with NO illustrations of Centerfire Metallics between 1914 and 1923, there may well be an earlier than 1923 catalog showing “REM-UMC” Again, you will note in my previous post, I ONLY said, the earlist catalog I HAVE, that shows “REM-UMC” is 1923. I have since gone back to the catalogs and looked at the shotshell section. The 1911/12 catalog shows all shotshells except 4 Ga. with “REMINGTON U.M.C.” headstamps. so, at least on shotshells, the new company name is used right from the start in 1911. Also, while the 1917 Price List does not illustrate the metallics, it does show the shotshells. In 1917, the headstamp on all shotshells was “REM-UMC”. I suspect that it was also changed on the metallics in 1911, thus the nature of my original question in my previous post. “Does anyone have a box with the Remington-Union Metallic Cartridge Co, or Remington-UMC used as the Company name on the box with “REM-UMC” headstamped cartridges in the box.” Or, just the reverse, does anyone have the above boxes with “U.M.C.” headstamped cartridges in it. Also, if the cartridge is illustrated ON the box, what is the headstamp shown and what is inside the box.
Lew–You probabily already know this, but in case you do not, the 1st listing for 9mm Luger is in the U.M.C. catalog for 1909. It lists Metal Cased and Metal Cased Hollow Point with no weights given.