Հանրապետություն" (Republic of Armenia) 7.62x39


#1

Does anyone know the maker and/or country of this Unknown 9mm cartridge. I can not determine the language of the symbols at 12 o’clock on this one.


#2

Looks like a laq. steel case, brass primer, reddish annulus, correct? If so, that could narrow the maker down a bit to Eastern Europe. Can you tell us anything about where it was found?


#3

The backwards "ZZ"ay be a logo or stylized letters like the S 9x19 B 2000.

Some idea for the source of the image would help as Johnny C suggests.

Thanks for posting this.

Cheers,

Lew


#4

These 9x18 (correct?) are Armenian, made by DG Arms Corporation Plant, Erevan. There are also copper clad steel cases with the same hs. Hs from 1997 exist too (plain steel cases as far as can be said).

The hs is the abbreviation in Armenian script for “Armenian Republic”.


#5

Thanks EOD, that is greatly appreciated. I don’t have the casing, I was emailed for information on the maker. I believe the person who owns it is in Germany. I would sure love to have this one for sure.
Yes lacquered case with red primer annulus paint.
Thanks
Curtis


#6

Curtis, Can you confirm that this is 9x18 or 9x19mm?

Cheers,

Lew


#7

They referred to it as 9mm Luger so 9x19mm. I am emailing to confirm to be 100% accurate.
I will post the confirmation when I receive it.
I am also seeing if I can get a full cartridge pic for you guys.


#8

Wow had a lot of confusion on this one. It is NOT a 9mm but a 7.62mm AK47 lacquer cased Berdan primed cartridge. Sorry all you 9mm guys,…nothing new to add to the collection.


#9

Even better! I’d take a 7,62x39 case then! :)


#10

To make it a bit more complete. The Armenias are making these calibers:
5.45x39, 7.62x39, 9x18, 9x19
Calibers planned for production: 5.56x45, 7.62x51, 7.62x54R, 12.7x99, .338LM (8.6x69)

The plant was renamed and reorganized in 2007 to “DG Arms Corporation Plant, Erevan” (union of “Bagvan” and “Neytron”) and the hs a shown above was in use till supposedly 2003 when the plant was operating under the old name “Neytron”.
For the time being and following the info given there should be a gap of manufacturing dates for the years 2004-2006.


#11

Please sir, any 7.62 Tokarev???


#12

Jon, I fear not…


#13

At very least they could sell it on the US commercial market.


#14

Looking forward to that!


#15

Just in case this is not already obvious with the information provided by EOD, those “ՀՀ” characters at 12 o’clock are the initials of “Հայաստանի Հանրապետություն” (Republic of Armenia).


#16

Here is a link to an article about this company:

iwpr.net/report-news/armenia-kee … powder-dry


#17

The date of 1986 for the start of their ammunition production given there is somewhat strange though since that was back in Soviet times. If that would be correct there should have been one more factory code other than those already known.