Russian ctges


#1

Drawing of samples received at the SFM in 1899.

It is a Russian Berdan case necked down to 320.

JP
PS : Hi Alex ! It is an hard work to find you info on Russian ctges you already dont’ kow ! Perhaps this one …


#2

Jean-Pierre, I fear you need to keep digging my friend. :)


#3

lol!
another one : Russian Berdan case necked down to 380.
jp


#4

I have a page in Russian from a catalogue from Etablissements Petrov, St Petersburg in 1911, advertising for BERDAN sporting carbines obtained from transformation of obsolete BERDAN n


#5

Jean-Pierre, digg deeper please! :)


#6

[quote=“philippe regenstreif”]I have a page in Russian from a catalogue from Etablissements Petrov, St Petersburg in 1911, advertising for BERDAN sporting carbines obtained from transformation of obsolete BERDAN n


#7

I think you are right, it is useless to post all the SFM drawings, you seem to have already all of them !!
I will look somewhere else to find something new for you.
JP


#8

Hello All,
Many of you seem to have a fantastic resource of factory drawings.
Where can I get a copy of these wonderful SFM drawings?
I have seen many at histavia21.net/Old-Munavia-2 … oc/SFM.htm

I have never seen a publication showing them.
I am assuming there is a book published or is it something else.

Thank you for the wonderful information and discussions.

Brian Clark


#9

[quote=“clarkbr”]Hello All,
Many of you seem to have a fantastic resource of factory drawings.
Where can I get a copy of these wonderful SFM drawings?
I have seen many at histavia21.net/Old-Munavia-2 … oc/SFM.htm

I have never seen a publication showing them.
I am assuming there is a book published or is it something else.

Thank you for the wonderful information and discussions.

Brian Clark[/quote]

Hi Brian !
There is till now no publication showing them.
You have some on Histavia website.
I posted a lot of them on this forum since one and half years ago.
Many other European people have SFM drawings (or other factory drawings : DWM, RWS, Eley, Kynoch).

Anyway I am very pleased you apprciate the posts of this forum.
JP
PS : Do you have any documentaion about shotshells ?


#10

Lol!!
Perhaps this one ?? It is written in your language !
JP


#11

Deeeeeper :)


#12

Lol ! I see now where yours are coming from ! Munavia website


#13

BINGO ! You got me now.

So when do you get me this case as a real specimen? :)


#14

No, Jean-Pierre, unhappily, I do not have more than this two pages from PETROV, a Belgian friend sent them to me years ago, and I do not know if there are also shotshells ads, but surely they are…

Now the thing should be to get the whole catalogue…

Philippe


#15

[quote=“EOD”]BINGO ! You got me now.

So when do you get me this case as a real specimen? :)[/quote]

I have only that as information and no specimen.

I am happy to have found you something of interest in the Russian ctges field. It was a funny post.

Now I have to work on the other opened post to find the drawing of the grenades. And it is an hard work because in fact the documents are not about one Grenade Machine Gun mais 3 different ones . And all is mixed !!
Plus the pneumatic mortar !

JP


#16

[quote=“EOD”]BINGO ! You got me now.

So when do you get me this case as a real specimen? :)[/quote]

Hi Alex !
As I told you I don’t have any.
But it must not be too difficult to find one because a lot of people seem to know already this round.

About me, I was just wondering who made in 1894 such a ctge with an aluminium inside liner. From the drawing, it is not SFM because they say : “dimensions taken from a bent out empty case”.
Furthermore the caliber is not typically French.

JP