S&B 7.65x17mmSR (.32 ACP) Dated (20)15 For Romania?

General Ammunition Discussion
#1

Recently listed at SGAmmo ( https://www.sgammo.com/product/32-auto-acp-ammo/3000-round-crate-32-auto-765-browning-73-grain-fmj-ammo-sellier-bellot-sb32 ) and described as:

"2015 MFG military surplus 32 Auto ammo in commercial boxes,
Packed 50 rounds per box, 60 boxes per 3000 round wood crate with a sealed liner.
This ammo has a red lacquer sealed primer.

50 round box - 32 Auto 73 grain FMJ ammo by Sellier Bellot."

65%20x%2017mmSR%20S%26B%2C%20b

Crate label photo from SGAmmo:

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Note some of the wording on the label appears to be Romanian, at least that is how Google translates some of the words, such as:

glont = bullet
ARME MICI = SMALL WEAPONS
cartuse - cartridges
baza dubla = double base

So it would appear these are from a contract for Romania.

Any input or information would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Brian

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#2

Neat!
Not a big fan of S&B for shooting, but I would like a round or two of that for my 7.65 collection.

#3

Brian, thanks for sharing.

Same contract for Romania also exists in 9x19 from 2015:

5%20g
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Regards,

Fede

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#4

Are the headstamps any different from commercial ones?

#5

Alex,

Not sure, I have a box on order and will provide a photo when it arrives.

Brian

#6

Brian, great, looking forward to your report.

#7

Box arrived today, here’s the headstamp

65x17mmSR 2015 for Romania%2C a
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65x17mmSR 2015 for Romania%2C b
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Stamp on inside of end tab
65x17mmSR 2015 for Romania%2C c

#8

It’s normal civilian head stamp used since 2010 on all 7.65 Br. The only difference to the standard 7.65Br of these days is the red primer seal - since 2012 most of the civilian S&B ammo production is without the primer seal. Only Police, Military and “foreign contract ammo” (on request) is still sealed.
Tomas

#9

Below is a portion of one of the photos posted by “balkslakk” in a earlier thread here on the IAA Forum
(WWII German ammunition)
The photo shows a 7.65x17mmSR S&B 2011 dated headstamp, pointed out by the blue arrow.
65x17mmSR 2011.

I wonder if this too is a contract loading for Romania?

Brian

#10

Not necessarily…in 2011 all 7.65Br cartridges for all markets were still red sealed 😉. First year they have started “cost-cutting” was 2012. I reload this caliber for more than 20 years…i’m quite well aware when I stopped washing the brass in acetone…