S&W 9mm Caseless


#1

I received the picture of the 9mm caseless projectiles shown here and an interesting history from a gentleman in Brazil. These are a little out of my areas of primary interest, so I know nothing about them, and have nothing that might be used to determine the plausiblilty of the information he provided, which follows:

I had worked for 5 years in CBC (Magtech) in S


#2

This same chap told this same basic story, although I think there are new elements here, some years ago. It is likely accurate. He would gain nothing making it up, and it was the first and only time I had seen these bullets without the charge attached. Interesting. Probably next to impossible to verify, without the invenotr’s name and with the factories now mostly in different hands.


#3

I’ve seen Hubert Usel credited with the caseless S&W rounds. He is probably now better known for the Voere UCC rounds.


#4

That sounds very plausible. Does anyone know that gentlemen well enough to contact him and interview him about the S&W project?


#5

For what it is worth, I have an unfired case in my collection (the silver colored variation) and it has a hole in the mouth/front to take the post on those bullets.


#6

Usel (or a company that he was connected to) used to have a website discussing his various caseless projects. This appears to be the current version:

http://vulcaninvestmentsltd.com/index.html

The Springfield Armory NHS has several caseless SMG and ammunition (9mm and .22) donated by S&W historian Roy Jinks. However, none of them were S&W M76. Two were marked Usel, and two were converted from conventional models: a Walther MP-L and a Carl Gustav m45/B.


#7

It looks from the website like he was the man involved with the Brazilian developments and Bangor Punta (S&W) for sure. Interesting. If anyone knows the man well enough to get an answer, why not think up some questions and interview him by email, and maybe we can developed a really scholarly rendition of the History of the Smith and Wesson 9mm Caseless Cartridge???

If I knew him at all, I would do it, but unfortunately I don’t, and he would have zero reason to have ever heard of me.


#8

I am told that this story is covered in the 2nd volume of Mr. M