Sad news; Phil Butler has passed away

Phil died Friday of complications stemming from his illness. His wife asked I post this here as he had many friends on this forum. He wanted to attend one last St Louis show but it was not to be. He will be missed. JH

My condolances to his family. I very much missed Phil at SLICS this year.


Sad news. I can’t claim to know Phil, I met him only once in his house when I was on tour of the famous ammo places in Arizona, driving from Tucson to Prescott. I stopped by to say hello and spent only an hour, what a different life from where I live, there were people riding horses around his house. He had a neat scanner-computer setup and a lot of ammo boxes standing around, some on the floor ( I wish I were that organized). Phil will be missed, his ammo scans were superb.

The whole show I missed sitting with Phil. He always held court near the elevators. Very sad, he will be missed.

What sad news on Easter sunday! One more specialist that will be missed thoroughly. He was a wealth of knowledge and always had the answers to so many 7.9 questions.
Rest in peace Phil!

I never met Phil in person but had some email contact with him.
He will be missed on this forum specially his great ammo pictures .

Sincere condolences


So sorry to hear this. My sincere condolences to all of his family and friends.


Although I have never been really interested to military stuff I have really appreciated Phil’s knowledge and info, not only related to 7.9 mm ammo.

RIP, Phil. We’ll miss you !!!

Sincere condolences to his family and friends from me and all italian collectors

RIP, mr. Butler

Phil was a very knowledgeable and helpful forum member who always concentrated on the subject at hand.

I will miss his posts greatly… Brad Dixon

It’s distressing to hear of Phil’s passing. He was unfailingly generous and patient in responding to questions from me and many many others. My sincerest condolences to his family and friends. Jack

I’m so sad to hear this. His generosity and knowledge will be deeply missed. Hasta siempre Phil!

Phil near the elevators

My sincerest condolences to his family and friends Harrie

MY sincerest condolences to all his family.

I had never met Mr.Butler, nor til this post, seen a photo of him.
But his excellent replies to queries and conundrums in 7,9mm cartridge matters were superb.

I hope his accumulated knowledge will be saved for posterity, and his collection go to a good home, as a memorial to his many years of Cartridge Collecting.

Yours very sincerely,
Doc AV( Dr. Astrid M.S.Vallati,)
AV Ballistics Forensic, Technical and Film Ordnance Services,

I met Phil in St Louis and enjoyed his inputs here very much. Phil seemed to be one of those that really made the IAA and collecting this stuff what it is. He was more than willing to share what he knew and he knew a lot. He will certainly be missed.

A sad time indeed, I always looked forward every year in talking with Phil at the Southwest Cartridge show in Prescott Az.
I loaned him a very large Spanish text cartridge book that had info that he had never seen before (as I recall) and Phil wanted that info to put into “his book”, Phil always had a 3 ring binder about 4 or 5 inches thick full of 7.9 info and pics, that was to be published some day, I fear that will not happen now.
Rest in peace my friend

A great man passed away.
He was a deer friend as human and as cartridge collector.
My sincere condolences to all of his family.

You will stay always with us.

Our heartfelt feelings go out to Phil’s entire family. As they can see from the postings here, from all around the world, Phil touches many lives with his kind and sincere nature, his knowledge of cartridges, his willingness to share and assist, and his down-home friendliness…!!

I will never forget the first time we met years ago at a local gun show. My son and I were in the searching stages of how to formulate and document our growing collection. Thanks to Phil, his “big notebook”, his ideas and thoughts, his willingness to share ideas, and his desire to get yet another set of collectors off on the right path…

Thanks Phil for all the fond memories, we will miss you, and may you rest in peace…!!

With our deepest sympathies,
The Fuchs Family

Here is a picture of Phil shooting a MP44 in AZ about three years ago. While Phil loved collecting 7,9 cartridges, he was also very well versed in rifles & shooting as well. It was always great to see and talk to him. JH

GREAT photo! RIP