Saloon cartridges


#1

I picked this tin up at the weekend but the label has me mystified.

I can understand the concept of the saloon cartridge but who on earth would want a blank version?

Are tins like this of any interest? I’m a collector so I bought them because they were there but they’re a bit arcane for me.

Happy collecting, Peter


#2

Hi Pete.

These were used in starter pistols and some industrial applications. Also, by anyone who wanted to make a loud noise. The fact that it was crimped would indicate that it contained a small amount of powder to make a loud bang (starters pistol). This is a modern tin as far as Floberts or Saloon cartridges are concerned. Although I consider anything after the 1920’s as modern…

Cheers,
Will.


#3

The “saloon” implies that these were to be used inside. Many theatrical applications used such items in performance. These would be worth more to a collector than a shooter, although , I am in favor of gunners shooting up all the rare ammo which they find. It makes mine all the more valuable. FIRE AWAY ! Stimulate the economy. Year ago I bought a full box of the raised Comblain headstamped cartridges at a show in Nashville Tn. All except for 1 had been fired. Keep it up ! I really like to see fired one inch Gatling cannister cartridges. Does anyone have a fired Schubarth ?


#4

Are they basically a .22 short blank. ln fact shorter than a .22 short? A CB blank perhaps is the correct definition?

If so they used to sell tins of blanks like that in sports shops for one of the popular (cheap) starting pistols when I was a boy.

The No1 was the smallest blank. Used in I think a Webley (?) starting pistol. It looked very much like a small automatic.
It had a sliding magazine that went from front to back and it used to discharge upwards out of the top of what would have been the slide on a real pistol.

I don’t know about the word “saloon” being on them though, not in my time as far as I recall. I would take that as just being the generic name for low powered .22 cartridges at that time.


#5

In Italy the so called “saloon weapons” are used ( no longer nowadays) to shoot inside at short ranges . They are generally chambered for very low powered cartridges such as 9 mm Flobert , 6 mm Flobert etc. So loaded with single lead ball


#6

Vince–To call them .22 Short or CB Blanks is incorrect. They are 6mm Blanks.
Size is almost the same, but the correct terminology is 6mm not .22.