Some .30-06 and?


#1

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Headstamp -
(1) 1943 (12 o’clock) D/ (7 o) Z (5 o) Guessing 7.? MM, German
(2) REM-UMC (12 o) 1906 (6 o) Hollow point bullet
(3) DEN (12 o) 43 (6 o) Lt blue paint
(4) S (11 o) L (1 o) 5 (7 o) 4 (5 o) Orange paint
(5) Same as 4 Black paint
(6) P413 (12 o) S* (3 o) 21 (6 o) 38 (9 o) Guessing 7.92/8 MM
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I’m sure 2-5 are .30-06. #2 may be a commercial loading as no primer crimping and hollow point bullet… #1 has a silver bullet jacket (steel?) and is a rimmed case. #6 has a three stike primer crimp with red seal and the * is a six point star (Czech?).
That’s 1/4" grid on the graph paper.
Found these in my stuff.
Would like to know some details. Thanks


#2

jThe top round looks to me like a .303 British. I can’t quite follow your description of the headstamp.

2 is a commercial .30-06

The ones (3-5) are .30-06 - blue tip is incendiary, orange tip is tracer, black tip is armor-piercing. Den is Denver, S.L. is St. Louis. These were military plants.

The last one is a German 7.9 x 57 mm S.m.K.L’Spur (Armor-piercing tracer) made by Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken A.-G., L


#3

Hi,

#1 Looks like a 303 British made by Dominion of Canada in 1943.

#2 Looks like a 30-06 Springfield made by Remington-Union Metallic Company.

#3 Looks like a US military caliber 30 made at Denver Ordnance Plant, Denver, CO in 1943. Blue tip would indicate this is an incendiary round.

#4 Looks like a US military caliber 30 made at the St. Louis Ordnance Plant. Orange tip would indicate this is a M25 tracer made in 1954.

#5 Looks like the same as #4 except this has a black tip which indicates an armor piecing load.

#6 Looks like a 7.92mm Mauser made at Deutsche Waffen-und Munitionsfabriken A.-G., L


#4

Thanks guys. Re: the headstamp confusion. In lieu of spelling -o’clock-, I just used the -o-. I’ve got some other .303 I’ll check out, but that spire point silver bullet threw me. These were all loose rounds, no boxes.

Rick


#5

The “7” on the 303 signifies that it was loaded with a Mark 7 bullet, a flat-based 174-grain bullet with a lead rear core and a wood or paper front core.


#6

Rick, the jacket of the .303 is not “silver tip,” but rather a cupro-nickel alloy, very common in Commonwealth loadings.

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#7

The .303 is a DI Z 1943 is a defence Industries (Canada) headstamp. There is no “7” on these cartridges ( the Numeral “7” was only introduced in late 1944; previous to that it was “VII” and only on British & Commonwealthy Berdan primed cases. DC Co ( Dominion Cartridge (CIL) did make a batch of boxer .303 in 1941, with the “VII” on it, but the DI ( Production omitted the “VII” in all its production ( 1942-45)

“Z” indicates Nitrocellulose loading ( ie, “granular Powder”).

regards, Doc AV
AV Ballistics.


#8

Re: the .303 headstamp is as follows

          1943 (12 o'clock)


 D/ (7 o'clock)            Z  (5 o'clock)

The other headstamp indicators (12 o), (6 o), etc are all o’clock positions of the particular letters and numbers. Sorry for the confusion.

Rick