Some Interesting Rounds


#1

My apologies, but I have little to go on here. Found some descriptions online, but some of these im not sure of there make.
Sure some of you can read these symbols like the alphabet. All ammo is now stored in a safe, and I took pics a few months ago.
If there’s anything that looks super interesting, and requires better pics, lemme know.
I’ll try to provide my untrained observations… not like that’ll help :)

Two Stars, “SFM,” and what looks like two G’s back-to-back.

F.A. 1942 45ACP - “High Test Pressure”

French 7.65 LONG

9mm Largo (sorry blurry shot)


Odd “U” shape, “1-26”, “30”

WRA Co. 9mm

“40”, two Stars, Odd “A” shape… one round says “1918” and “HL”

"1928 “FYA” “HP”

This round is pretty neat. I can make out “12” “78” “S”

Took this group photo. Sorry about the mosh-pit of rounds. I think the markings are pretty clear.
edit - wrong pic

I believe these are 8x50r rounds, although a mixed lot of makers. Correct me if Im wrong.



#2

In the photo of three rifle cartridges the one with the odd “U” is 7.62 m/m Russian rimmed (7.62 x 54 R) and the letter is actually a cyrillic L inverted. The letter indicates production at the factory in Lugansk. One of the three cartridges is a .303 British, produced (if I’m reading the maker code correctly as “VPT”) in Finland. The angle and lighting here is a problem. Jack


#3

Awesome. Thanks Jack.
Would you like better pics? Worth digging through the safe?


#4

The Lugansk made 7,62x54R is a 1908 Type L cartridge.
The bottom lot looks to be a mix of different cartridges.

I can spot at least some 6,5x52 Carcano rounds in there… sort them first, I can see both semi-rimmed and rimless cartridges there, of different lengths, thickness, and bullet calibre


#5

Top rounds might be .43 Spanish or some other 11 ish mm cartridge by Societe de Francis Municione.

The .45s are nice.

The 7.65 French is based on a .30 Pedersen cartridge and used in the Modele 1935 pistol and MAS 38 SMG.

I have 9mm Largo box that is badly taped, but identical to yours. Good to see the contents. Used in various Star pistols.

Those look like .303 British with Arabic or Hebrew stamping.

The next is a 9mm Mauser (the rifle, not the 9mm Mauser pistol) by WRA co.

Those next ones appear to be 8x50r Hungarian, (not lebel) or 8x56r Hungarian.

Those appear to be 8mm Mauser.

I think the next one is also a .43 Remington or .43 Spanish.

I can’t read the HS’s, but in the group photo, from top:
Looks like a .30-30

.44-40 shot

.222 Mag, closely related to .223 Remington

Little short guy looks like a .22 Hornet

A .300 Savage

A .308 Winchester, based on the .300 Savage

A .45-70, maybe a .444 Marlin

A .222 Remington (Not magnum)

A .30-40 Krag maybe

Don’t know the rest

Most are guesses, some are definites. Others might help


#6

[quote=“ammocollectorME”]Top rounds might be .43 Spanish or some other 11 ish mm cartridge by Societe de Francis Municione.

The .45s are nice.

The 7.65 French is based on a .30 Pedersen cartridge and used in the Modele 1935 pistol and MAS 38 SMG.

I have 9mm Largo box that is badly taped, but identical to yours. Good to see the contents. Used in various Star pistols.

Those look like .303 British with Arabic or Hebrew stamping.

The next is a 9mm Mauser (the rifle, not the 9mm Mauser pistol) by WRA co.

Those next ones appear to be 8x50r Hungarian, (not lebel) or 8x56r Hungarian.

Those appear to be 8mm Mauser.

I think the next one is also a .43 Remington or .43 Spanish.

I can’t read the HS’s, but in the group photo, from top:
Looks like a .30-30

.44-40 shot

.222 Mag, closely related to .223 Remington

Little short guy looks like a .22 Hornet

A .300 Savage

A .308 Winchester, based on the .300 Savage

A .45-70, maybe a .444 Marlin

A .222 Remington (Not magnum)

A .30-40 Krag maybe

Don’t know the rest

Most are guesses, some are definites. Others might help[/quote]

Information overload! Thank you.
I definitely need to sort through some of these bags, and organize.
There’s just so many…


#7

Ok, here are my guesses.

Picture #1 & #2
Are most likely 11x59R French Gras cartridges.
Picture #3 & #4
Are .30-06 Springfield Proof or High Pressure Test rounds.
Picture #5 & #6
Are as you say 7.65mm French Pistol
Picture #7 & #8 & #9
Are 9mm Largo
Picture #10 & #11
The two rounds with raised headstamp markings are 7.62x54R Nagants. The one with the VPT in the headstamp is a Finnish made 303 British.
Picture #12 & #13
Are 9x57 Mausers made by Winchester
Picture #14 & #15
The ones with the stars and the number 40 are 8x56R Hungarian Mannlichers, the two with HL in the headstamp are 8x58R Danish Krags.
Picture #16 & #17
Are 7.65x53 Argentine Mausers
Picture #18 & #19
Is a 43 Spanish Remington (aka 11.15x58R)
Picture #20 & #21
Left-to-right
Either 32 Winchester Special or 30-30 Winchester
222 Remington
45-70
308 Win
300 Savage
22 Hornet
I believe a 22-250 Remington
44-40 or aka 44 WCF shot shell
32 Winchester Special
Picture #22 & #23 & #24
Are a mix of what appear to be 6.5mm cartridges.
The one with the dark almost black case is a steel case 6.5x52 Italian Carcano.
There appear to be some 6.5 Japanese Arisakas with both older round nose bullets and later spitzer types. These are semi-rimmed.
The ones with the crown in the segmented headstamp are 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser.
I do see one kind of toward the middle that looks like a 7.5x55 Swiss. It is 9 to the left of the dark cased one.
The ones with the VPT in the headstamp I am not sure of.


#8

Dt,

After you sort thru, if you have a dial caliper, the case lengths and projectile (bullet) diameters are very helpful to identification along with picture of inquiring rounds headstamp. From that you will most likely get the correct identifications. Also mass assortments tend to bring on a guessing game, (not in this instance), but it happens. Better to list individual per topic.

Nice start of a collection.

Joe


#9

[quote=“xjda68”]Dt,

After you sort thru, if you have a dial caliper, the case lengths and projectile (bullet) diameters are very helpful to identification along with picture of inquiring rounds headstamp. From that you will most likely get the correct identifications. Also mass assortments tend to bring on a guessing game, (not in this instance), but it happens. Better to list individual per topic.

Nice start of a collection.

Joe[/quote]

Ok, got it. Thanks Joe.
It’s over-whelming at this point. I figured 1 big thread would avoid too much noise on the forum.
I’m floored by the multiple, very informative responses from everyone.
Thanks all.