Strange hstp-6.5x53.5R


#1

I opened a box of 6.5 x 53.5 R Mannlicher ctges for Portugal

The label of the box is
Fabrica de Chelas
10 cartuchos com bala de 6.5m/96
1930

Inside were two clips of 5 ctges.

First interesting thing is the fact the clips are headstamped DM in an oval.

Another surprise is the fact all the ctges have not the same hstp.

Some of them are hsted * / AE / * / 1930, which is normal.

But some are hsted P F S

What is the meaning of P F S (or F S P or S P F)

I thought it was DWM coded but it doesnt fit

Any info ?
Thanks
JP


#2

Do the PFS-marked catridges have the large .250 in. primer typically found in the AE-produced examples? Jack


#3

no, they are smaller
jp


#4

Jeanpierre: It’s a very interesting mystery. I hope someone has the answer. Jack


#5

PFS should be Patronenfabrik Solothurn. Can you show us the hs? We may say more after we have seen it.


#6

Here it is


#7

Was the box factory sealed, or just closed?


#8

I don’t remember!!


#9

So, any idea ?,
Is it Soluthurn or not ?
And why hstps with DM on the clips ?
Thanks
JP


#10

JP: The clips marked DM probably are by DWM, and might be recycled items predating the manufacture of the cartridges or clips currently supplied by DWM after WW.I. Finnish 7.62 m/m Mosin ammunition from the 1930s is frequently seen on DM-marked clips, and my assumption has been these clips, unloaded, were supplied to Finland by DWM. Perhaps someone can comment on the Finnish-DM clip story. Jack


#11

Thank you
And what about the hstp ?
Is it sure it is from Soluthurn ?
Thanks
JP


#12

Yes the headstamp is Solothurn, Switzerland.


#13

Thanks to all
JP