The earliest Austrian 9x25?


#1

I recently bought in German the 9x25 Mauser Export cartridge with 19 \ X / 34 \ Austrian eagle / headstamp .
I’ve never seen before the Austrian headstamps for the year 1934. And what you know of the earlier Austrian headstamps for this cartridge?


#2

According to a 2002 IAA article by John Moss, Austrian commercial 9x25 probably pre-dates 1933, but military production started in 1934. I have one example of the round in my collection with a (* 19 * 13) headstamp. I have it listed as possibly Austrian origin.
I hope that helps a bit.


#3

John, this is very useful information! Thanks!


#4

In my collection, I have,

H * 1933 *

chassepot


#5

Can you confirm if your example is a 9x25mm or a 9x23mm?


#6

9x25

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#7

[quote=“chassepot”]In my collection, I have,

H * 1933 *

chassepot[/quote]

9 x 25 => H * 1933 *

9 x 23 => H * 33 *


#8

I’m not sure what you mean, as I have 9x23 rounds with both of those headstamp styles.


#9

Jon,
It looks like chassepot has a 9x25 with * H * 1933, like probably our * H * 1935 hs.
And a 9x23 with the * H * 33 hs, probably like our * H * 32, and * H * 33.
* H * 1934 I have in 9x23, but that’s it for me.
Does anyone know if they made the two and four digit date, in either caliber, for the same year?

Thanks,
Dan


#10

My point was that I have never seen a 9x25 with an H * date * style headstamp before, and that a 4-digit date does not signify 9x25 and 2-digits a 9x23.


#11

All 9 x 25

All 9 x23


#12

Very nice collection! I had never seen dated “H” headstamps in 9x25 before. More to hunt for!


#13

It turns out the Austrians used the same billets for production of cases in the 9x23 and 9x25 calibers. I have seen a similar case of the Italians with their M38 cartridge.
But the Italians combined the 9x19 and 9x25 cases.


#14

Were the dividing lines added later as a quick way to tell 9x23 and 9x25 apart?

I notice that none of the 9x23 rounds have the lines.

Could you shoot 9x23 in a pistol chambered for 9x25?


#15

[quote=“Falcon”]Could you shoot 9x23 in a pistol chambered for 9x25?[/quote] No