The earliest Austrian 9x25?

I recently bought in German the 9x25 Mauser Export cartridge with 19 \ X / 34 \ Austrian eagle / headstamp .
I’ve never seen before the Austrian headstamps for the year 1934. And what you know of the earlier Austrian headstamps for this cartridge?

According to a 2002 IAA article by John Moss, Austrian commercial 9x25 probably pre-dates 1933, but military production started in 1934. I have one example of the round in my collection with a (* 19 * 13) headstamp. I have it listed as possibly Austrian origin.
I hope that helps a bit.

John, this is very useful information! Thanks!

In my collection, I have,

H * 1933 *


Can you confirm if your example is a 9x25mm or a 9x23mm?


[quote=“chassepot”]In my collection, I have,

H * 1933 *


9 x 25 => H * 1933 *

9 x 23 => H * 33 *

I’m not sure what you mean, as I have 9x23 rounds with both of those headstamp styles.

It looks like chassepot has a 9x25 with * H * 1933, like probably our * H * 1935 hs.
And a 9x23 with the * H * 33 hs, probably like our * H * 32, and * H * 33.
* H * 1934 I have in 9x23, but that’s it for me.
Does anyone know if they made the two and four digit date, in either caliber, for the same year?


My point was that I have never seen a 9x25 with an H * date * style headstamp before, and that a 4-digit date does not signify 9x25 and 2-digits a 9x23.

All 9 x 25

All 9 x23

Very nice collection! I had never seen dated “H” headstamps in 9x25 before. More to hunt for!

It turns out the Austrians used the same billets for production of cases in the 9x23 and 9x25 calibers. I have seen a similar case of the Italians with their M38 cartridge.
But the Italians combined the 9x19 and 9x25 cases.

Were the dividing lines added later as a quick way to tell 9x23 and 9x25 apart?

I notice that none of the 9x23 rounds have the lines.

Could you shoot 9x23 in a pistol chambered for 9x25?

[quote=“Falcon”]Could you shoot 9x23 in a pistol chambered for 9x25?[/quote] No