I have a signal flare that has TUX stamped on the head and cannot find out who made it. I thought it may be German but I’m not 100% sure. Signal, Licht, DM13B1 is stenciled on the side. Any ideas?
Its is indeed German.
The case is made by “Tubex-Vertrieb GmbH” of Rangendingen.
But the black lettering on the case wall should also have a lot number where the manufacturer of the cartridge is given.
Hi Alex - I finally remembered to take some pictures. There are no other marking on the case. Only “verbrauchen bis 9.83”, which Google tells me is the expiry date.
As it is illegal here to possess anything that is live and larger than 20mm, I disassembled it, disposing of the powder and the star (it certainly hadn’t expired). I then machined a replacement star from Aluminium bar stock and reassembled it. Oh - I sectioned the case whilst I was at it:
Same treatment with a four star signalpatrone by Vereinigte Aluminium-Werke (VAW):
I have a white and red to reassemble once I get some more aluminium.
Mayhem, well done!
The one has the “NIC” in the lot number which is NICO of Trittau. Today they are a part of Rheinmetall.
Thanks for the clarification Alex. I will amend my records. That particular case has VAW and 08I stamped on the head. I found a post here stating that VAW = Vereinigte Aluminium-Werke, so I’m guessing that this is the company who produced the cases for Nico? I just noticed I incorrectly wrote VUX in my previous post, which I have now corrected.
Yes, NICO and others were/are buying their cases from random suppliers.
But to what I have observed in recent years is that the case manufacturers (for 26.5mm) became fewer in Germany.
I was recently given a few more signal flares and I’m looking to try and identify who manufactured them.
- SIGNAL, SCHALL, DM27.26.5MM
147mm long case with a 7mmm wide brown band. A canister containing a healthy amount of flash powder inside a second canister, inside the main tube. There appears to be a small “G” on the head.
- EINZELSTERN, GRON (all other markings have been scrubbed off)
78mm long case with a 15mm wide white band. Contains a single green star. The mark on the head appears to be an incomplete “O”
- GLEB (all other markings have been scrubbed off)
78mm long case with a 15mm wide white band. Contains a single yellow star. The “G” on the head looks like the Geco “G”.
As always, any help is greatly appreciated.
Schall is a signal, sound.1980’s the brown band indicates a sound signal.
G headstamp is by Alcan-Novalis/Gottingen.
Grun = green. Smooth rim. 1970-80. White band was on yellow, green and white flares at this period.
Gelb = yellow. Half knurled rim.
Nice cartridges and sectioning. I have not found these examples.
Reference is German Flare and Signal Ammunition by L. Scheit. A great book. Ron.
The Schallmesz is less a sound signal than an accoustic ranging round (used by artillery units).
It produces a quite loud sound report.
Scheit’s book is full of errors and is lacking many things.
Thank you both.
Alex - any idea on the manufacturer of the two signal flares?
Darren, if there is no lot number given then no way to determine who made them.
Cases were made by typical aluminum extrusion companies which are not related to ammo production itself.
Thanks Alex - I thought that may be the case.