Unheadstamped .427, .440 and .450 ID


#1

I picked up a heap of new cartridges for the collection over the last couple of weeks including a bunch of unheadstamped items. I have identified most of the them but these few I am not so sure about.
I dont have the greatest reference library so would appreciate any input on ID and possibly features that would ID the manufacturer.

Measurements are (in order from left to right):
1
Projectile dia: .427-.429 (10.86mm)
Neck dia: .430 (10.92mm)
Base dia: .435 (11.10mm)
Rim dia: .502 (12.80mm)
Case length: .845 (21.38mm)

2
Projectile dia: .440 (11.18mm)
Neck dia: .442 (11.28mm)
Base dia: .442 (11.28mm)
Rim dia: .510 (13.00)
Case length: 1.015 (25.80mm)

3
Projectile dia: .450 (11.44mm)
Neck dia: .455 (11.58mm)
Base dia: .460 (11.68mm)
Rim dia: .485 (12.36mm)
Case length: 1.10 (27.96mm)


#2

My identification is:

1 - .44 S&W American (by ???)
2 - .44 Evans Old Model (Phoenix Metallic Cartridge Co. or American Metallic Cartridge Co.)
3 - .44 Colt (WRACo)


#3

In Austrailia you will probably get the greatest mix anywhere in the world of cartridges of this type. They could just as easily have come from Birmingham or Belgium.


#4

[quote=“Fede”]My identification is:

1 - .44 S&W American (by ???)
2 - .44 Evans Old Model (Phoenix Metallic Cartridge Co. or American Metallic Cartridge Co.)
3 - .44 Colt (WRACo)[/quote]

Thanks Fede
I had come to the same conclusion for 1 and 3 but number 2 was the one I was really not sure of.
Is that a confident ID?