Unknown 7x57 Headstamps

#1

Who mfg. and for who were they mfg?

  1. No headstamp, brass pr., dark blue black PA, cncs fmj
  2. 1937 headstamp, brass pr., green PA, cncs fmj
    Both have a continuous bullet crimp with 6 segments.
#2

Without looking, I think I recall these as being German production for the Spanish Civil War. For either Geman or Nationalist/Fascist use.

#3

Jon C. are you sure?

Both cartridges shown have a uncrimped primer.
By German made rounds for Spain in 37/38 is this very unusual.
With uncrimped primer it is only seen on a case with 7.92 in the head stamp.

We were lucky to find this head stamp in a Polte made box with l.S. (leichten Spitzgeschoss) rounds from 1937.
we think, the case came in the wrong container in the plant. So we are almost 100% sure that we identify this head stamp as Polte made.

Dutch


#4

Dutch - I have seen the “7.92” headstamp on a round on a Polte Cartridge Board. I am sure it is made by Polte, and frankly, thought that was common knowledge. I don’t know why, though, that they made that headstmap in three different letter sizes. See you at SLICS.

By the way, the numbers on that “1937” 7 x 57 are somewhat like those on several 1937-dated 7.9 x 57 I have from DWM. also, I have a “DWM 1937” 7.9 ball round, type S bullet, with CNCS bullet, that has no primer crimps. The date is upside-down to the “DWM.” I don’t know if that 7mm was made in Germany or not, but it has a “German” look to it, depite the absence of primer crimps.

#5

The 1937 one looks very similar to DWM marked 7x57s of the Spanish Civil War timeframe, specially primer and annulus.
The numbers don

#6

[quote=“JohnMoss”]Dutch - I have seen the “7.92” headstamp on a round on a Polte Cartridge Board. I am sure it is made by Polte, and frankly, thought that was common knowledge. I don’t know why, though, that they made that headstmap in three different letter sizes. See you at SLICS.

By the way, the numbers on that “1937” 7 x 57 are somewhat like those on several 1937-dated 7.9 x 57 I have from DWM. also, I have a “DWM 1937” 7.9 ball round, type S bullet, with CNCS bullet, that has no primer crimps. The date is upside-down to the “DWM.” I don’t know if that 7mm was made in Germany or not, but it has a “German” look to it, depite the absence of primer crimps.[/quote]

Were headstamp bunters cut in the factory making the cases or farmed out to speciality shops ? Many of our factories have big machine shops but still farm out work on a regular basis.