[quote=“JohnMoss”]Am not sure that the insturctions for recovery and inhibiting of corrosion on brass was aimed at reloading it, but perhaps more at salvage. Badly corroded brass cases, expecially in small caliber ammunition, would probably not have been worth the costs to clean it at that stage, for salvage. I don’t know, off hand, of ANY military reloading of small arms ammunition in the United States during WWII. The amounts produced by American industry of new ammunition, even Grade A (Aircraft grade) were awesome. I am not sure they cared to waste man-hour and production machinery assets on reloading, when they were able to shut down a facility like Evansville Chrysler late in 1944, with the war expected to last perhaps as late as 1947, because they had produced so much ammunition in their calibers that it was not projected that any more would be needed.
If anyone has any confirmed knowledge of ANY American reloading activity relating to WWII (I am not talking about experiments, civilian reloading, or perhaps match ctg. reloading, but rather serial production for combat or even combat training), please post it, along with the source for the information, here. Thank you.
My dad has told the same exact stories since I was old enough to listen and that’s been 50 years now. His details haven’t changed a bit so I don’t think he’s getting confused due to age.
The following may be of interest to you and other forum members.
Whenever I discuss a subject I can usually back it up with some sort of reference.
I did a little research and came up with this.
It seems that FA did reload .30 Ball before the war for training purposes.
It is not unlikely that this ammo was repacked on M1 clips and ended up in combat. Don’t forget, the USMC got the leftovers, especially early in the war.
The following is my reply to the other CMP forum poster.
I contact the military liaison at Lake City Ammo Plant and was given a name at the D.O.D. to contact. I have not contacted that person yet as I feel the following answers my question. Hopefully, this will prove “What never happened”.
Unless you have documentation to prove otherwise… end of story.
On May 12th I contacted Chris Punnet via e-mail. Mr Punnet is the author of .30/06.
The following is extracted from An Introduction to Collecting .30/06 from the the International Ammunition Association website cartridgecollectors.org/. This should show his credentials.
An Introduction to Collecting .30-06
by Chris Punnett
(Author of .30-06. A hard-bound 384-page volume covering the development and production of the .30-06 in 48 countries from its inception to the early 1990s
Copies available from booksellers, or from the author firstname.lastname@example.org.)
Mr Punnet has over 30 years experience in researching the .30/06 cartridge. He could not answer my questions. However, he did contact someone who could.
The following is his final reply to my question:
Just got a response from the guy who was the Commanding Officer at Frankford Arsenal and then Lake City Ordnance Plant. “FA” in his email means Frankford Arsenal (in case you didn’t know)…
Chris: … --First, FA did from time to time through the 1920’s-1930’s reload .30 ball ammunition and also loaded lots with “second class” components–these being restricted to “Training Use Only” when the war started I would not be surprised that the depots were further instructed to mark the outer container with “Not For Combat Use”. I am surprised that these rounds were loaded in 8-round clips for the M1 Rifle since most it not all of these lots were loaded into 5-round clips or 20-round cartons. I do not know of any of the WW II Ordnance Plants reloading .30 cartridges, but they certainly produced lots that failed acceptance and were later re-classified “For Training Use Only”.
Please pardon a war story–but in 1951 I was in Korea–MG Plt, Co. M, 3rd Bn, 9th Inf, 2nd Inf Div and we were frequently supplied with .30 ammunition from operation “Roll-Up” (salvaged from WW II Pacific Depots) that was marked “Not For Combat Use” and never thought one thing or another about using it.
I would say that the old Marine recalled what he saw correctly and that during the early years of the war this ammunition was simply pressed into service and ended up in combat, despite the restrictions marked on the outer containers.
Hope this helps.
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