Vegas shooting ammo


#1

I saw this link to an article about this poor innocent guy who is being charged with the confusing / inexplicable charge of “manufacturing armor piercing ammuntion”. At a glance, it looks like a typical epic failure by the FBI, the court system, and the media reporting about it, who seem to know nothing about ammunition. This guy is an engineer with no criminal record who reloaded as a hobby. He sold the Vegas shooter 720 rds of tracer ammo, and though they don’t describe the caliber, it is certainly either 5.56 or 7.62x51. It is legal to reload and sell ammo as long as it is not the primary source of livlihood and pecuniary gain for the individual doing the loading (the government’s defintion). The FBI is saying that they found “AP” ammo which they think came from the seller of the tracer ammo, which even if it were, would be legal since “manufacturing” has a specific definition which there is no way the seller meets. The seller says that after the court system accidentally released his name that he has received death threats, and his life is ruined (the court was not supposed to release his name), and the FBI & ATF don’t seem to know what AP ammo is, or what manufacturing is. This wouldn’t be the first time, since from the murder investigation of rapper Biggie Smalls, the FBI also seemed to think that Geco Action-1 ammo was armor piercing, and they repeatedly mispelled it as Gecko. Its just sad how the government handles investigations regarding ammo and how they slay people in public before a trial. It is absurd.


#2

The full text of the complaint is available at the link below. They are alleging violation of several sections of 18 USC 922, basically “manufacture of AP ammunition” in .308.

He actually sold the Vegas murderer 600 rounds or 7.62mm Tracer M62 and 120 rounds 5.56mm Tracer M196, from his home and the box he put it in was found in the killer’s room. At an earlier gun show (the killer encountered Haig at several gun shows in NV and AZ in 2017) the killer bought 4 or 5 10 round packs of “.308 incendiary” ammo. The FBI recovered two rounds with Haig’s fingerprints from the killer’s room which they classify as “armor piercing incendiary” and these rounds bear toomarks matching Haig’s reloading gear.

This led to scrutiny of Haig’s web business as “Specialized Military Ammunition” offering "HEAP, HEAPI and AP in .308 and “.30 caliber.”

While they seem to be sensationalizing the incendiary et al nature, their legal complaint is based on the Armor Piercing aspect.

Of course, the ban on AP is from the definitions in 18 USC 921 (a)(17)(B):
QUOTE
The term “armor piercing ammunition” means—
(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
END QUOTE

Of course, this allegation hinges on the absurd notion that 7.62 x 51 NATO is a “handgun cartridge” because some Thompson-Center Contenders were made in this caliber. But, laws do not have to make sense.

Full text of the complaint against Haig can be found at:


#3

Another political/emotional witch hunt


#4

Of course it was an accident when the court system released his name. Wink! wink!


#5

The government will have some egg on its face when they realize that the specifics of the 1986 AP law (absurd as it is to include .30 cal ammo in that) refers only to manufacturing the projectiles, not reloading the projectiles for sale as loaded ammunition. The question becomes, how much of it was he loading, was he the actual loader and not just a reseller, and if so what level if any license did he have. If he was loading ammo in commercial quantities without an FFL-06 then he is at fault of manufacturing without a license, the “AP” part shouldn’t come into play. The early reports I read did not say that he was SMA Ammo, which is a site I am familiar with (now offline), that always seemed to be just one of the many sites selling tracer / incendiary / AP type stuff, which is nothing new, and nothing illegal. Watch prices on tracers go crazy now as people scramble.


#6

No matter what, he has a long, expensive fight ahead of him. Even if he wins, his life is ruined because if someone else’s idiocy.