What do I have? (small shotshell)


#1

I’m looking for any information on the middle shell in these pictures. It’s flanked by a 9mm rimfire and an Eley 360 for comparison. I have it listed as “9mm centerfire shotshell” but don’t really know anything about it. Years and years ago when I first started collecting, I was approached by a stranger at a flea market where I regularly dug through boxes of loose ammo. “You that kid that collects cartridges?” I said yes, he fished this out of his shirt pocket, handed it to me, and walked away. Dimensions are as follows.

Rim: .444" / 11.27mm
Head: .387" / 9.83mm
Tube: .378" / 9.60mm
Length: 1.575" / 40.00mm

Despite the picture, it’s more red than orange.


Any and all information is appreciated.


#2

I have two varieties that match one, is classified as a 360 caliber green paper and the other a 9x40 mm W,S, ELEY, this one is all brass


#3

Cannon500,

Those dimensions match the 9 mm W.S. by Kynoch or Eley (W.S. = Walking Stick) within a couple of thousands of an inch. I don’t think I have a paper case in all of mine, so a nice cartridge. All my 9mm are brass cases, just checked my photos but you have me thinking now so I will double check my titling of No 3 (RF) and 9 mm to ensure I have not listed any incorrectly.

Kynoch%209mm%20WS%20Head%20Stamp

S%20Brass%20Walking%20Stick%20Type%201%20Head%20Stamp

All my British ones are pocket primed were as all the foreign ones are cup primed, if that has any significance in helping to source your case manufacturer!

Mike.


#4

In my opinion it is a regular 9 mm shotshell.
I have several different ones of these.
Most of them come from France.

Regards rené


Put a picture of different 9 mm central fire cases.
On the left is an eley .360


#5

rené,
Do any of these have headstamps?

Thanks,
Dan


#6

HI Dan,

No!
And to be honest, I have never seen a 9mm with a headstamp.

regards rené


#7

Thank you, gentlemen.