What's your earliest, dated headstamp? (pictures)

I was thinking, what is the earliest year that can be seen on a military headstamp. And what cartridge has that. Not sure if this question was asked before. Do we know the answer - theoretically?
I have this 11,15x42mm Werndl Carbine with 1874.

If you wish to participate in this “game” please upload a photo of the headstamp and tell us what the cartridge is.
11,15x42 werndl - 1874

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Just one year later: 1875 dated 11x60mm Mauser, which has been reloaded twice.

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11,15x42R werndl dated 1871 and a 11,15x36R werndl carbine dated 1873

And a 15,24x41R krnka dated 1875, I had one dated 1871 but already sold it a few months ago

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45-70 Benet primed carbine load

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V 81 Mx 4 (Gévelot S. A.), Jules Gévelot, Issy-Les-Moulineaux, (Fred A. Datig. Vol3: Pg74)

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Gevelot yes
SFM no
it did not exist at this time (founded in 1884)

JP

Thanks jeanpierre…have edited accordingly. :slightly_smiling_face:

Sorry – I couldn’t resist, but Gabor did say it was a “game” ! The 450 Short was used by the military for many years.

Megret 450 Short

Chris P.

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This is the earliest date I have seen representing “actual” manufacture (sorry Chris P).

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This is on an 11.2x42R Werndl shown in the ECRA Dataviewer as posted by Josef Mötz.

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Here’s a Martin primed .50-70 US Govt. with a raised “PAT. MAR. 23. 1869”
headstamp.
PAT. MAR. 23. 1869

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11,15 x 60 R Mauser M/71 Dummy 1878

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Can’t beat WBD or Pete. The oldest I could find in my junk is a fired 45-70 Benet primed carbine load 6 -77.

Paul

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Forgot about this one, a 12 bore light brown paper hull & what appears to be a copper head with the hs raised,
ELEY LONDON 1861

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I have a 12mm Italian dated 1866

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Well, as Chris pointed out, it is a game…And mine has an extra date to boot! This is the 7.62mm NATO “Tombstone”. For real I’m not sure if I could get much earlier than about 1880 but I’ll check when I have the chance. Great thread!
Tombstone

Dave

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I hope I’m not breaking the rules too much but I have a sealed box of .45-70 dated 1882. Although my oldest cartridge dates to the mid 1860’s with only letters on headstamp…



Here what your headstamp should look like Henry.
R 1 F 82 45-70 Benet
Nice box.

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Wow Pete thanks!! Always wondered what they looked like inside…you made my day!

Well dang, about time I made someones day?
Tomorrow I’ll link a post to this one with a early 45-70 & another Benet primed & dated case.



My oldest with date,not sure witch caliber it is…

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