The title of this ebay auction caught my attention when a friend pointed it out to me. I have a couple of the 4160 round wooden crates and also a couple of the 832 round cardboard bricks. When I heard of it I was hoping it was a special German Navy crate from 1940. The item is claimed to have come off of a U-Boat.
When I looked at the photos, I decided not to bid. I could be wrong, and have been before, but I don’t think this thing is ammo related at all, and perhaps not even military.
The German ammo crates I have seen all have a metal lined and are marked on the outside that they contain cartridges. They also have an internal label. The 832 rd brick inside is just over 12 inches long, 5 inches high and 3.5inches wide with a cloth handle on top. The given dimensions of the box are 13.25 x 7.75 and 5 inches high. When I scale from the photo, the sides appear to be just over 0.75 inchs thick. The interior space would be about 11.75x6.25x3.5 so an 832 round brick wouldn’t fit. This and the lack of the metal lining and any markings like those used on German ammo crates convince me this has nothing to do with ammo.
As far as I know, both the AF and Navy got their 9mm from the Army. I have seen 16 rd packets that reportedly came off of U-Boats and they are the same as the normal Army box. The AF sometimes stamped their packets but I have never seen a Navy stamped packet.
The company is not one I have ever heard of associated with ammunition. I suspect that it is for some kind of instrument or something similar and C&F was the manufacturer. I kind of doubt that it is even military. Most military suppliers had been assigned codes by 1940 which were replaced by the 3 digit lower case codes beginning in Nov 1940. The single and double lower case letters were not assigned until Oct 41. If this was an ammo box it would not have had the civilian name (C&F) and the name of the town and province on the label.
My opinions. I’d like to be convinced that this is really what it is claimed to be, but if you do this, please do it in the next couple of days so I can bid!!!
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