Yugoslavian 7.62 x 39mm blank

The first image is a regular Yugoslavian 7.62 x 39mm blank cartridge, I think designated 7.62mm Metak Manevarski M68. So what is the second cartridge with its different crimp, maroon seal and date-only headstamp? Is it just a variation of the M68 or is it something different?

Also a blank just a different country.

Ahhh…thank you. So its not Yugoslavian?

If I am not totally misslead it might be Romania and we also know Bulgaria made similar ones (8 lobe rose crimp, green seal and 2 digit year).

Our hs specialists may come up with a better ID. I have no solid opinion as for on who made these.

Of course I could be wrong, but from the case finish I would exclude Romania, for me those blanks have a Hungarian touch.


Thank you both. I suggested Yugoslavia, not only because the case finish is very similar to that of the M68, but also because John Munnery states in his booklet ‘Bulgarian Military Cartridge Review 1876 - present’ that Bulgaria imported Yugoslavian 7.62 x 39mm blanks and that these could be identified by their grey finished steel cases and a headstamp which showed only the year of manufacture.

Hans, here the Romanian finish of 2009, hence my guess:

What h/s is it?


HS is:
7.62x54 SADU 09

SADU dropped the usual numerical codes in 2006 and is using only “SADU” since.

EOD, any picture to compare?!!!


Not much to compare as the 7.62x54R has a relief type hs.
The image of the hs is more than lousy too and won’t contribute much.