Yugoslavian 7.62 x 39mm blank

The first image is a regular Yugoslavian 7.62 x 39mm blank cartridge, I think designated 7.62mm Metak Manevarski M68. So what is the second cartridge with its different crimp, maroon seal and date-only headstamp? Is it just a variation of the M68 or is it something different?

Also a blank just a different country.

Ahhh…thank you. So its not Yugoslavian?

If I am not totally misslead it might be Romania and we also know Bulgaria made similar ones (8 lobe rose crimp, green seal and 2 digit year).

Our hs specialists may come up with a better ID. I have no solid opinion as for on who made these.

Of course I could be wrong, but from the case finish I would exclude Romania, for me those blanks have a Hungarian touch.

Hans

Thank you both. I suggested Yugoslavia, not only because the case finish is very similar to that of the M68, but also because John Munnery states in his booklet ‘Bulgarian Military Cartridge Review 1876 - present’ that Bulgaria imported Yugoslavian 7.62 x 39mm blanks and that these could be identified by their grey finished steel cases and a headstamp which showed only the year of manufacture.

Hans, here the Romanian finish of 2009, hence my guess:

What h/s is it?

Hans

HS is:
7.62x54 SADU 09

SADU dropped the usual numerical codes in 2006 and is using only “SADU” since.

EOD, any picture to compare?!!!

Hans

Not much to compare as the 7.62x54R has a relief type hs.
The image of the hs is more than lousy too and won’t contribute much.